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Well I was there and whilst not currently shouting "Hurst out" I'm still not a fan of his and despite reaching 2nd in the table I still feel we are still not either good enough or not reaching our best potential to get promoted which is down to the manager.
And as regards Saturday's game his substitutions buggered us up in my opnion, yes Mackreth was woeful but after he scored he looked a changed man.
I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion. What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.
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I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion.
What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.
Whilst I wouldn't really disagree with what you say I think one of the biggest frustrations amongst the fans is our continual inability to beat some of the poorer teams in this league which may ultimately cost us promotion.
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I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion.
What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.
Well said..... My New Year's resolution will be not to reply to threads from people who haven't been to the game. I've missed more games this season than in the whole of the last three seasons put together but I wouldn't dream on commenting about actual games I hadn't been to.
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Whilst I wouldn't really disagree with what you say I think one of the biggest frustrations amongst the fans is our continual inability to beat some of the poorer teams in this league which may ultimately cost us promotion.
Absolutely, which is understandable as it's been our Achilles heel for a while now and if we sorted it out we'd be flying. However, the promising aspect from Saturday is that we should have won it, it wasn't one of those games where we didn't play well or create chances. If we keep performing like that against teams lower in the table then we'll beat more teams than we fail to. My gripes come from those who haven't seen the game who start spouting off on here despite not knowing that it was a disappointing result but with a decent performance. They just have their own agendas which they fail to see past.
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Absolutely, which is understandable as it's been our Achilles heel for a while now and if we sorted it out we'd be flying. However, the promising aspect from Saturday is that we should have won it, it wasn't one of those games where we didn't play well or create chances. If we keep performing like that against teams lower in the table then we'll beat more teams than we fail to.
My gripes come from those who haven't seen the game who start spouting off on here despite not knowing that it was a disappointing result but with a decent performance. They just have their own agendas which they fail to see past.
Again, can't disagree with that, however the most balmy thing I ever read was someone on the official forum giving a man of the match by just listening to JT.
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John Still and Richard Money had their critics last season. I think every fan of a side that is a 'traditional' league club has a shorter fuse the longer we remain in the Conference, so one defeat - or two dropped points, as was the case at the weekend - is amplified and feels much worse than it actually is.
Since returning to 4-4-2 we've played better attacking football. Let's hope Hurst saw enough in that draw at Telford to persist with 4-4-2 over Christmas and New Year because I'm convinced we can win those games and continue to challenge Barnet.
I also hope that we'll see more from Mackreth now that he's got his debut goal. Don't think it was the cleverest move by Hurst to sub him afterwards, but then I've said on more than one occasion that Hurst's weakest area is his inability to manage his attacking players effectively.
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How is it the best keeper in this league keeps been beaten from shots that are 25 to 35 yds away,
If that player hit the ball from inside the penalty box,
Macca would have saved it.
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I was at the game, but for those that weren't I personally think those highlights don't give a true reflection on towns style of play which is frustrating so many fans. Apart from the opening 20 mins we played hoof ball bypassing the midfield. All the best chances and goal came from playing the ball through on the deck. What is apparent from this game is a complete lack of sharpness in front of goal. Once their keeper made a couple of decent saves our confidence waned and we didn't take chances any team in form would have.
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bizarrely telford have taken 9 of their 14 points against the top teams - beaten welling and torquay, drawn with us barnet and kiddy
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