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Posted by: MyDogsThoughts, November 30, 2014, 8:20pm
Right, the moaners who were not there please watch this 11 minutes worth before you post anything else negative: Listen to the commentary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCaZa0uygY&feature=youtu.be
Posted by: Hagrid, November 30, 2014, 8:41pm; Reply: 1
I saw the town highlights, goodness knows how we didnt win that game!! But the blame should be put at the players for that, not Hurst, some poor finishing there
Posted by: barralad, November 30, 2014, 8:45pm; Reply: 2
Two Points:-

1. I did their keeper a great disservice for what I thought was LJL's second chance. It was a very good save

2. I'd forgotten Arnold's drive which the keeper somehow handed away...
Posted by: iimariner, November 30, 2014, 9:12pm; Reply: 3
I was out for a run in Telford  this morning having stayed overnight with friends...ran past someone walking a dog wearing a town fleece.....was that you MDT??
Posted by: BIGChris, November 30, 2014, 9:18pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from iimariner
I was out for a run in Telford  this morning having stayed overnight with friends...ran past someone walking a dog wearing a town fleece.....was that you MDT??


I hope it wasnt the dog that went for me in the car park after the game! Huge teeth but thankfully the 'owner' (dressed in hi viz gear, boots and uniform), just managed to drag it back
Posted by: Maringer, November 30, 2014, 9:21pm; Reply: 5
I wonder how much that cameraman had been drinking before the game? Nowhere near play half the time and he somehow completely missed Mackreth's goal! Didn't even see cross or the header.

From what the commentators said, it would seem that they thought we should have won and the foul on LJL at the end was a clear-cut penalty. All in all, more than enough chances to win the game (with various players missing them) and, I'm sorry, but they really shouldn't have scored with a shot from that range which ended up right into the middle of the goal, even if it took a slight deflection.
Posted by: moosey_club, November 30, 2014, 9:22pm; Reply: 6
Well....at least we have found someone who does worse highlights than us, terrible camera work, how the fck do you miss a goal??

Posted by: moosey_club, November 30, 2014, 9:24pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Maringer
I'm sorry, but they really shouldn't have scored with a shot from that range which ended up right into the middle of the goal, even if it took a slight deflection.


reminiscent of Gateshead i thought.
Posted by: arryarryarry, November 30, 2014, 9:27pm; Reply: 8
Having seen the MP highlights it looked a good challenge on LJL at the end.
Posted by: Les Brechin, November 30, 2014, 9:29pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from arryarryarry
Having seen the MP highlights it looked a good challenge on LJL at the end.


I agree. At the time I was screaming for a penalty and on the Telford highlights it looks a nailed on pen but from the different angle on MP it does seem that their player got the ball and it was a good tackle.
Posted by: MyDogsThoughts, November 30, 2014, 10:34pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from iimariner
I was out for a run in Telford  this morning having stayed overnight with friends...ran past someone walking a dog wearing a town fleece.....was that you MDT??


No, nor any of my family: but there are a few Town fans living in and around Telford.

Posted by: LH, November 30, 2014, 10:53pm; Reply: 11
Didn't know Chris "Camara" was involved in Telford's media team.
Posted by: mariner2000, November 30, 2014, 11:01pm; Reply: 12
Can't believe we have so many chances and so much possession up to their goal and still only score one!
Posted by: Grimsbys finest, November 30, 2014, 11:02pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from BIGChris


I hope it wasnt the dog that went for me in the car park after the game! Huge teeth but thankfully the 'owner' (dressed in hi viz gear, boots and uniform), just managed to drag it back


The same thing happened to my cousin at Telford 2 seasons ago. You would think they would be kept away from the public unless there is a genuine need for them. At least the police prevented the  trouble before it happens instead of letting it happen and recording it.
Posted by: fleabag1970, December 1, 2014, 7:56am; Reply: 14
Point 1) I don't like having a go at Keepers but  Macca will know he should be saving that

2) We had enough chances to win 2 games

3) it wasnt a Penno at the end , perhaps if LJL had gone down a bit less dramaticaly

4) Telford were never gonna score in a million years (  gk ERROR ASIDE)

5) Not PH's Fault at all

6) Some great saves by their GK
Posted by: 75 (Guest), December 1, 2014, 9:33am; Reply: 15
Didn't look too bad on that admittedly shocking video, looked like they dragged someone in off the street and said point this camera at the pitch! We seemed to control the game, Macca should be saving that, he knows that. I'm sure he didn't expect it but he's saved us no end of times so he's got credit in the bank. With this two week break, the table will even itself out. We aren't the second best team at the moment, we need to drastically improve if we are to mount a challenge for the title. I think this league is as weak as it's been since we dropped down, it's there for the taking if we can perform to our potential.
Posted by: mariner91, December 1, 2014, 11:38am; Reply: 16
Interesting how none of the Hurst Out brigade have commented on the highlights. It's bizarre as most of them weren't at the game either but you'd assume they'd base their opinions on having seen some of the action rather than blindly calling for the manager's head after an admittedly disappointing result.
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, December 1, 2014, 11:52am; Reply: 17
this thread just highlights what i keep saying.

How people can comment on a performance they haven't seen is beyond me.

so far this season ive been to the following away games:

Gateshead
Halifax
Wrexham
Telford.

i have not commented on any of the other away games because ive not seen them.

i understand on the comments about hurst ect, but when it involves the performance of the players, your going by what Tondeur is saying...

they are Telford highlights and most of them are us attacking...

the fans that was at the game on Saturday was chanting PH name at the end, because despite the frustration, they appreciate the performance and sometimes 'its just not our day'

Chelsea drew 0-0 with Sunderland, thats not on, sack Mourinho now !

Chill out, we dropped a massive 2 points, but there is another 63 points to play for.

We have to play Barnet, Macclesfield and FGR twice, so its far from over.
Posted by: moosey_club, December 1, 2014, 12:32pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God


the fans that was at the game on Saturday was chanting PH name at the end, because despite the frustration, they appreciate the performance and sometimes 'its just not our day'

Chelsea drew 0-0 with Sunderland, thats not on, sack Mourinho now !

.


Sorry for cherry picking your comments but we are not in a position that resembles anything like Chelsea's, we have lost games this season, we are not comfortably clear at the top of the table and looking fairly invincible, if we were then yes, a point away against the bottom may be seen as an off day....reactions are not based on this single game.....this is a repeat problem, failure to beat teams in a far worse position than ourselves, regardless of performance we dropped points against an opposition who looking at the highlights managed one speculative effort on target in the entire game.
When we regained the momentum it was ripped away by our own substitutions, neither of which seemed that logical to me, ok Hurst had already made his mind up to drag Makreth off as he was having a poor game, however we equalised and he started to brighten up, the team were bouyant and on the uppers, why not leave it for ten minutes......also taking off Pittman in case he got injured(?), i dont recall them stating he felt something, a bit tight etc but just in case he got injured....you could make that argument for any of the players couldnt you? Just taking you off Macca in case you get injured!!

The formation was the right one, the performance was largely good, our finishing was poor, in game management poor IMO.

Posted by: arryarryarry, December 1, 2014, 1:25pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from mariner91
Interesting how none of the Hurst Out brigade have commented on the highlights. It's bizarre as most of them weren't at the game either but you'd assume they'd base their opinions on having seen some of the action rather than blindly calling for the manager's head after an admittedly disappointing result.



Well I was there and whilst not currently shouting "Hurst out" I'm still not a fan of his and despite reaching 2nd in the table I still feel we are still not either good enough or not reaching our best potential to get promoted which is down to the manager.

And as regards Saturday's game his substitutions buggered us up in my opinion, yes Mackreth was woeful but after he scored he looked a changed man.  
Posted by: mariner91, December 1, 2014, 1:34pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from arryarryarry



Well I was there and whilst not currently shouting "Hurst out" I'm still not a fan of his and despite reaching 2nd in the table I still feel we are still not either good enough or not reaching our best potential to get promoted which is down to the manager.

And as regards Saturday's game his substitutions buggered us up in my opnion, yes Mackreth was woeful but after he scored he looked a changed man.  


I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion.

What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.
Posted by: arryarryarry, December 1, 2014, 1:42pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from mariner91


I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion.

What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.


Whilst I wouldn't really disagree with what you say I think one of the biggest frustrations amongst the fans is our continual inability to beat some of the poorer teams in this league which may ultimately cost us promotion.

Posted by: barralad, December 1, 2014, 1:58pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from mariner91


I accept that though, I'm not fully convinced that Hurst is capable of delivering promotion either. He's put a good squad together and like you say, I think that sometimes he doesn't utilise the potential of the squad with his formations and substitutions. However, we are currently second in the table and on the back of a decent stretch of results. If, admittedly a big if, Hurst learns from mistakes he has made then I think it is possible for us to be in L2 this time next year. At the very least I think we'll make the play offs and we have a better starting eleven than previous years so the chances of us winning those are slightly greater in my opinion.

What frustrates me is the way so many Town fans are quick to jump down the manager's throat after a disappointing result which they haven't even witnessed. It was a fairly good display which Town dominated for most of the game. On one hand you can argue that Hurst hindered the chances of a win with his substitutions but equally if the players put away the chances presented and McKeown doesn't member up for the goal (you have to be saving one down the middle of your goal from 40 yards out) then the game would have been won by half time. Hurst is not responsible for individual errors. He put a team out that dominated the game and on another day would have comfortably won. Yet almost immediately after the final whistle we get people on here calling for his head and bizarrely the loudest ones tend to be the ones who have seen the least amount of games/have stated they're not currently attending games.


Well said.....

My New Year's resolution will be not to reply to threads from people who haven't been to the game. I've missed more games this season than in the whole of the last three seasons put together but I wouldn't dream on commenting about actual games I hadn't been to.
Posted by: mariner91, December 1, 2014, 2:17pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from arryarryarry


Whilst I wouldn't really disagree with what you say I think one of the biggest frustrations amongst the fans is our continual inability to beat some of the poorer teams in this league which may ultimately cost us promotion.



Absolutely, which is understandable as it's been our Achilles heel for a while now and if we sorted it out we'd be flying. However, the promising aspect from Saturday is that we should have won it, it wasn't one of those games where we didn't play well or create chances. If we keep performing like that against teams lower in the table then we'll beat more teams than we fail to.

My gripes come from those who haven't seen the game who start spouting off on here despite not knowing that it was a disappointing result but with a decent performance. They just have their own agendas which they fail to see past.
Posted by: arryarryarry, December 1, 2014, 3:34pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from mariner91


Absolutely, which is understandable as it's been our Achilles heel for a while now and if we sorted it out we'd be flying. However, the promising aspect from Saturday is that we should have won it, it wasn't one of those games where we didn't play well or create chances. If we keep performing like that against teams lower in the table then we'll beat more teams than we fail to.

My gripes come from those who haven't seen the game who start spouting off on here despite not knowing that it was a disappointing result but with a decent performance. They just have their own agendas which they fail to see past.


Again, can't disagree with that, however the most balmy thing I ever read was someone on the official  forum giving a man of the match by just listening to JT. :)
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, December 1, 2014, 4:18pm; Reply: 25
Mc Kewon should never have been beaten from there that was a howler by any decent keepers standard. Their keeper on the other hand had a blinder and kept them in it. How the feck anyone can blame Hurst for that is beyond me, That just reinforces my earlier post about the knee jerking goons on here. Manager of the month.only lost one match in ages, most in form team not so long ago, second in the league. WTF IS UP WITH SOME OF YOU? The strikers missed some sitters how can HURST do more? they made chances it's not his fault if the strikers he has at is disposal can't put the thing in the fecking net.   ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: RichMariner, December 1, 2014, 4:19pm; Reply: 26
John Still and Richard Money had their critics last season. I think every fan of a side that is a 'traditional' league club has a shorter fuse the longer we remain in the Conference, so one defeat - or two dropped points, as was the case at the weekend - is amplified and feels much worse than it actually is.

Since returning to 4-4-2 we've played better attacking football. Let's hope Hurst saw enough in that draw at Telford to persist with 4-4-2 over Christmas and New Year because I'm convinced we can win those games and continue to challenge Barnet.

I also hope that we'll see more from Mackreth now that he's got his debut goal. Don't think it was the cleverest move by Hurst to sub him afterwards, but then I've said on more than one occasion that Hurst's weakest area is his inability to manage his attacking players effectively.
Posted by: grimsby pete, December 1, 2014, 4:33pm; Reply: 27
How is it the best keeper in this league keeps been beaten from shots that are 25 to 35 yds away,

If that player hit the ball from inside the penalty box,

Macca would have saved it.
Posted by: Paul62, December 1, 2014, 5:18pm; Reply: 28
I was at the game, but for those that weren't I personally think those highlights don't give a true reflection on towns style of play which is frustrating so many fans. Apart from the opening 20 mins we played hoof ball bypassing the midfield. All the best chances and goal came from playing the ball through on the deck. What is apparent from this game is a complete lack of sharpness in front of goal. Once their keeper made a couple of decent saves our confidence waned and we didn't take chances any team in form would have.
Posted by: forza ivano, December 1, 2014, 5:26pm; Reply: 29
bizarrely telford have taken 9 of their 14 points against the top teams - beaten welling and torquay, drawn with us barnet and kiddy
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