Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Archive › Barnet
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 83 Guests

Barnet

  This thread currently has 4,460 views. Print
3 Pages 1 2 3 All Recommend Thread
Garth
November 2, 2014, 9:35am

Season Ticket Holder
Posts: 11,493
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 80.75%
Rep Score: +55 / -13
Approval: +4,921
Gold Stars: 26
Barnet  12 points ahead and played 1 game more, we have to play them twice 6 points and win the one behind 3 points total 9 points, its not over yet!
Logged Offline
Private Message
cmackenzie4
November 2, 2014, 9:45am

Recovering Alcoholic
Posts: 58,410
Posts Per Day: 11.27
Reputation: 92.05%
Rep Score: +130 / -10
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +14,335
Gold Stars: 33
There is a long way to go yet, They will suffer a bad run before the season ends, we need to take advantage of that, Barnet have us to play twice yet.

We just need to keep picking up results and keep within distance and i am sure we will be fine, It's a marathon not a sprint!


Grimsby and proud!
Logged
Private Message
Reply: 1 - 27
MeanwoodMariner
November 2, 2014, 9:50am

Champagne Drinker
Posts: 2,326
Posts Per Day: 0.39
Reputation: 79.34%
Rep Score: +19 / -5
Approval: +2,673
Gold Stars: 8
Quoted from Garth
Barnet  12 points ahead and played 1 game more, we have to play them twice 6 points and win the one behind 3 points total 9 points, its not over yet!


I agree it's not over yet but it's still a pretty big ask. We need to beat the run away leaders home and away, plus win our game in hand and we'd still be 3 points behind.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 2 - 27
1739
November 2, 2014, 10:02am
Guest User
All it will take is Martin Allen to lose it like he has done in the past. He is not the most loyal bloke in football either. The hardest thing to do is maintain the lead and motivate your players for that length of time whilst you are at the top.
Logged
E-mail
Reply: 3 - 27
Les Brechin
November 2, 2014, 10:32am

Moderator
Posts: 23,785
Posts Per Day: 4.18
Reputation: 82.43%
Rep Score: +114 / -24
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +12,688
Gold Stars: 174
Quoted from MeanwoodMariner


I agree it's not over yet but it's still a pretty big ask. We need to beat the run away leaders home and away, plus win our game in hand and we'd still be 3 points behind.


It can be done though, just have a look at this table after 17/18 games of the season 2 seasons ago when the Top 2 were Mansfield and Kidderminster!

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/conference-premier/2012-2013/table/2012-11-10


[img]https://news.images.itv.com/image/file/402260/image_update_img.jpg[/img]
OFFICIAL FUNDRAISER FOR THE BRAIN TUMOUR CHARITY
TOTAL AMOUNT RAISED SINCE AUGUST 2008 £16613.24


LATEST DONATION - FROM DONATION FROM THE FISHY FORUM - AUG 2023 AMOUNT RAISED £170.00
        
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 4 - 27
TownSNAFU5
November 2, 2014, 10:56am
Vodka Drinker
Posts: 5,962
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 62.03%
Rep Score: +30 / -21
Location: York
Approval: +6,841
Gold Stars: 42
As well as being well down the league at this stage,  Mansfield and Kidderminster also had a combined goal difference of -2.  They showed that anything is possible over the last half of the season. It is a marathon not a sprint.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 5 - 27
northbankmariner
November 2, 2014, 11:45am

Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,728
Posts Per Day: 0.33
Reputation: 87.61%
Rep Score: +27 / -3
Location: the wrong side of the bridge
Approval: +525
Quoted from MeanwoodMariner


I agree it's not over yet but it's still a pretty big ask. We need to beat the run away leaders home and away, plus win our game in hand and we'd still be 3 points behind.


At last a voice of reason, we could easily lose the games and it be a 15 point gap. But I remain positive we have a very good and capable squad, but feel they are looking too good right now. Happy to be proven wrong. I will happily take a play off spot at the end of the season, and no that is not being negative at all, just a reflection I feel we are one of the best teams in the division but am not cinvinced YET that we are the best.


CLAP
CLAP
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
FISH
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 6 - 27
Rick12
November 2, 2014, 12:28pm
Vodka Drinker
Posts: 5,155
Posts Per Day: 1.15
Reputation: 91.04%
Rep Score: +42 / -3
Approval: +255
Gold Stars: 45
Quoted from 1739
All it will take is Martin Allen to lose it like he has done in the past. He is not the most loyal bloke in football either. The hardest thing to do is maintain the lead and motivate your players for that length of time whilst you are at the top.
A tough manager who is very demanding of his players I think.Thats all well and good but players sometimes need the man management side as well .For me I think this is where Hurst possibly prospers over Allen.If I was good enough to be a pro player I think I would like to play for Hurst more than Allen and this can make the difference sometimes in who signs for the club



One life,one love .
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 7 - 27
oldun
November 2, 2014, 1:21pm

Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,341
Posts Per Day: 0.90
Reputation: 90.37%
Rep Score: +57 / -5
Approval: +3,475
Quoted from Les Brechin


It can be done though, just have a look at this table after 17/18 games of the season 2 seasons ago when the Top 2 were Mansfield and Kidderminster!

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/conference-premier/2012-2013/table/2012-11-10


That's interesting, I am happier coming into form later in the season and hitting the top near Easter than being in Barnet's position now.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 8 - 27
grimsby pete
November 2, 2014, 1:24pm

Exile
Posts: 55,644
Posts Per Day: 9.81
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,779
Gold Stars: 222
I have always said, it's not how you start,

It's how you finish,

This is our time.


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                             68 Years following the Town

                              Life member of Trust

                               First game   April 1955
                               
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 9 - 27
SamTheMariner
November 2, 2014, 1:44pm
Snakebite drinker
Posts: 467
Posts Per Day: 0.13
Reputation: 79.87%
Rep Score: +4 / -1
Approval: -101
We need to go on a Luton style run because we can hope we've gone through our dodgy run


[img]http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/275785/Article/images/18946866/4836403.jpg[/img]

Diz, a leader, a goal scorer, a true pro

UTM
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 10 - 27
acko338
November 2, 2014, 7:19pm
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,935
Posts Per Day: 0.83
Reputation: 86.5%
Rep Score: +43 / -6
Approval: +3,225
Gold Stars: 33
Waiting to see how good they are if injuries happen to players like Akinde ??
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 11 - 27
chaos33
November 2, 2014, 7:42pm
Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 11,580
Posts Per Day: 2.58
Reputation: 67.78%
Rep Score: +66 / -33
Location: The mountains
Approval: +17,862
Gold Stars: 353
Quoted from acko338
Waiting to see how good they are if injuries happen to players like Akinde ??


This. They will have a sticky patch at some point for sure.


"You should do what you love while you can"
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 12 - 27
gtfc98
November 2, 2014, 7:49pm
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,369
Posts Per Day: 0.74
Reputation: 69.6%
Rep Score: +45 / -21
Location: The Wild West
Approval: +3,066
Gold Stars: 68
Quoted from grimsby pete
I have always said, it's not how you start,

It's how you finish,

This is our time.


I hope so Pete!


No longer Sick of the BlueSquare  
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 13 - 27
RonMariner
November 3, 2014, 1:17pm

Special Brew Drinker
Posts: 7,757
Posts Per Day: 1.41
Reputation: 84.78%
Rep Score: +42 / -7
Approval: +13,535
Gold Stars: 224
Quoted from Les Brechin


It can be done though, just have a look at this table after 17/18 games of the season 2 seasons ago when the Top 2 were Mansfield and Kidderminster!

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/conference-premier/2012-2013/table/2012-11-10


Good point. and at this stage last season Luton were 8 points adrift of Cambridge with no games in hand.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 14 - 27
pizzzza
November 3, 2014, 1:51pm

Pontoonite
Posts: 5,660
Posts Per Day: 1.06
Reputation: 69.75%
Rep Score: +20 / -10
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +6,696
Gold Stars: 137
So, we are all agreed that we can come from behind and the important thing is that we are on top at the climax.
Logged
Private Message
Reply: 15 - 27
sydney
November 3, 2014, 10:26pm
Fine Wine Drinker
Posts: 1,170
Posts Per Day: 0.29
Reputation: 80.9%
Rep Score: +9 / -2
Approval: +1,009
Gold Stars: 3
We will go second if we can win at Braintree tomorrow,,
Come on Town!!
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 16 - 27
moosey_club
November 3, 2014, 10:35pm
Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 16,173
Posts Per Day: 2.71
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,192
Gold Stars: 224
Quoted from pizzzza
So, we are all agreed that we can come from behind and the important thing is that we are on top at the climax.


keep banging away in the meantime and prove to be a stiff challenge


2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWL
2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW
2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳
2020/21  LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend
2019/20  WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL WLLW - ended
2018/19  LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny  
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 17 - 27
TownSNAFU5
November 3, 2014, 11:18pm
Vodka Drinker
Posts: 5,962
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 62.03%
Rep Score: +30 / -21
Location: York
Approval: +6,841
Gold Stars: 42
Men are usually on top at the climax.    It is all in the timing.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 18 - 27
gaz57
November 4, 2014, 12:18am

Fine Wine Drinker
Posts: 1,378
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 78.12%
Rep Score: +10 / -3
Approval: +993
Gold Stars: 3
Quoted from pizzzza
So, we are all agreed that we can come from behind and the important thing is that we are on top at the climax.


So town come good in the end.  
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 19 - 27
Garth
November 4, 2014, 8:51am

Season Ticket Holder
Posts: 11,493
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 80.75%
Rep Score: +55 / -13
Approval: +4,921
Gold Stars: 26
Quoted from pizzzza
So, we are all agreed that we can come from behind and the important thing is that we are on top at the climax.


Is coming first that important though?
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 20 - 27
GyMariner
November 4, 2014, 10:29pm

Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,700
Posts Per Day: 0.37
Reputation: 70.44%
Rep Score: +9 / -5
Approval: +686
Gold Stars: 7
Are barnet THAT good? Or have other teams just had a slower start? We have dropped alot of points against bottom sides.




Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 21 - 27
KingstonMariner
November 4, 2014, 11:04pm
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.08
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
Quoted from moosey_club


keep banging away in the meantime and prove to be a stiff challenge


Yeah, let's hope we keep getting our tackles in and not pull out at the last minute and we'll keep clean sheets.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 22 - 27
KingstonMariner
November 4, 2014, 11:05pm
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.08
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
Quoted from TownSNAFU5
As well as being well down the league at this stage,  Mansfield and Kidderminster also had a combined goal difference of -2.  They showed that anything is possible over the last half of the season. It is a marathon not a sprint.


Sadly one of the teams they overtook was us on our habitual slide in form after Christmas.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 23 - 27
GrimRob
November 4, 2014, 11:09pm

Moderator
Posts: 12,665
Posts Per Day: 2.12
Reputation: 69.92%
Rep Score: +76 / -34
Approval: +13,397
Gold Stars: 113
Quoted from KingstonMariner


Sadly one of the teams they overtook was us on our habitual slide in form after Christmas.


We won't have that problem if we lose in the FAT early rather than actually try to win games!


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson

Logged Offline
Site Private Message Skype
Reply: 24 - 27
KingstonMariner
November 4, 2014, 11:12pm
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.08
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
Quoted from GrimRob


We won't have that problem if we lose in the FAT early rather than actually try to win games!


Ah yes, the Brendan Rodgers approach to cup games!


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 25 - 27
120797
November 5, 2014, 2:21am
Guest User
Quoted from GyMariner
Are barnet THAT good? Or have other teams just had a slower start? We have dropped alot of points against bottom sides.

Yep we're playing catchup...

Just had a look at THEIR results so far to compare theirs with ours.
YTP means we're "yet to play"...
Pts 'advantage' calculated for us (not them)

....................................BARNET...................TOWN................Advantage
Chester (A)................Won...........................YTP     
Bristol Rov (H)...........Won...........................YTP
Lincoln (H).................LOST.........................YTP.....................(+ 3?)
Nuneaton (A).............Won...........................YTP               
Dartford (H)................Won...........................Won.......................0
Southport (A).............Won...........................YTP
Alfreton (H)................Won...........................Won.......................0
Dover (A)...................Won...........................YTP
Telford (A).................Drew...........................YTP......................(+2?)
Wrexham (H).............LOST..........................YTP......................(+3?)     
Altrincham (H)............Won...........................Drew......................-2
Forest Green (A).......Won...........................YTP
Braintree (A)..............Drew...........................Get in..!!!...............+2
Eastleigh (H)..............Won...........................YTP
Macclesfield (A)........LOST..........................YTP......................(+3?)
Kidderminster (H)......Drew...........................YTP......................(+2?)
Gateshead (A)...........Won...........................Won........................0
Braintree(H)...............Won...........................YTP
Welling (A).................Won...........................YTP

Conclusion ?

Fixture for fixture so far, we're dead level with them !      

For the games Barnet have already played, there's potentially 13 points we can make up on them. (for sure)
i.e. Lincoln (H), Telford(A), Wrexham(H), Macclesfield(A), Kiddermister (H) - not bad ones at all !

However there's potentially 27 points (9 wins) we can lose on them (but note, this is WORSE CASE SCENARIO where we lose the lot !)
Must be said their away form is VERY impressive so far ! (that said ours is pretty good right now too..)
Logged
E-mail
Reply: 26 - 27
120797
November 5, 2014, 2:33am
Guest User
Now to those WE'VE played that they haven't.... (the slightly worrying bit !)

..............................BARNET......................TOWN
Bristol R (A)...............YTP............................Drew
Nuneaton (H).............YTP............................Drew
Dover (H)...................YTP............................Drew
Aldershot (A).............YTP............................LOST
Welling (H)................YTP............................Won     
Lincoln (A).................YTP............................LOST
Torquay (H)................YTP............................LOST
Halifax (A)..................YTP............................Drew
Kidderminster (A)......YTP.............................Won
Chester (H)................YTP............................Won
Southport (H).............YTP............................LOST
Dartford (A)................YTP............................Drew
Wrexham (A)..............YTP............................Won
Torquay (A).................YTP............................Won

Super conclusion ?
God knows really.
It's all about their future form and agree they'll most probably come unstuck at some point.
But if you ask me, if we want the title, we've got to try to keep our WINNING league run going.
Logged
E-mail
Reply: 27 - 27
3 Pages 1 2 3 All Recommend Thread
Print

Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Archive › Barnet

Back to top of page

This is not an official forum of Grimsby Town Football Club, the opinions expressed are those of the individual authors. If you see an offensive post then click "Report" on the relevant post. Posts will be deleted at the discretion of the moderators whose decision is final. Posts should abide by the Forum Rules. IP addresses of contributors together with dates and times of access are stored. The opinions and viewpoints expressed by contributors to The Fishy are their own and not necessarily those of The Fishy. The Fishy makes no claims that information dispersed through this forum is accurate or reliable. Also The Fishy cannot be held liable for any statements made by contributors of The Fishy.