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October 26, 2014, 10:09pm
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So they're going through with that mad plan are they. What does that leave the town with?



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Moosey_club, it took TEN years from the first application, to planning permission being granted, by which time the funding had long since disappeared. The objectors led the council a merry old dance to drag it out, whilst JF & the club were left helpless bystanders.

What gets me is how other councils bend over backwards to help their local football club to relocate, whilst our council...........(fill it in yourself).

Prime example is the KC stadium, built in a residential area, next to the infirmary, but planning permission was granted in no time. How??


It probably took longer than that from the initial identification of the site due to the club not actually moving any plans forward for god knows how long...yes 10 yrs or so once JF beefed up the bid but...the council has to go through due process and the objectors had plenty of "genuine" grounds for arguing, wildlife , industry disaster zones etc so was never going to be a 12 month process.
The fact stands that permission was granted..eventually...and then after chucking all that time,effort ad money at it JF let  it go as he had no partner to fund it.


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So they're going through with that mad plan are they. What does that leave the town with?



New leisure facilities being built on the old tip behind Macauley school


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New leisure facilities being built on the old tip behind Macauley school


And wouldn't it have been good if a whole sporting and leisure complex could've been built there too!!


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It probably took longer than that from the initial identification of the site due to the club not actually moving any plans forward for god knows how long...yes 10 yrs or so once JF beefed up the bid but...the council has to go through due process and the objectors had plenty of "genuine" grounds for arguing, wildlife , industry disaster zones etc so was never going to be a 12 month process.
The fact stands that permission was granted..eventually...and then after chucking all that time,effort ad money at it JF let  it go as he had no partner to fund it.



Another " objector" that came to the surface was Network Rail who insisted that Great Coates crossing had to be updated and the club would have to pay. This was despite the fact that they had already had plans to upgrade the crossing anyway. I seem to recall a poster on here first mentioning this and JF re-iterated it later.


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Ok there is a fair amount of anger in this thread (quite rightly in my view about the Council - which is rubbish) However I think a few things need to be cleared up.

NE Lincs did grant planning permission for the Great Coates site but they attached conditions to the approval that made it not viable economically. This is a common trick that Council planning departments do but is now harder to get away with due to changes in planning legislation since the Great Coates plan collapsed.

There is much anger towards Defreitas (I personally detest the man) but he is an effective local politician. He is simply backing the views of his wards residents (well actually the residents who vote.) More people in his ward (Park) will oppose a new ground (and while most will say its about traffic, crematorium etc, in reality its because they think it will lower the value of their house). There is no way that Defreitas or his residents are persuadable so we should stop bothering with them.

What we should be doing is bothering with the other 44 councillors on NE Lincs. Everyone on this board has a democratic right to contact their local Councillors and ask him what their views on the football ground are, whether they have signed the petition for (or against) the new ground. You can find out who your local councillors is at http://www.nelincs.gov.uk/coun.....-advice/ward-search/

Most of you will have three so its worth contacting all of them.
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Oh and you also pay for what you get - Grimsby's Councillors tend to be a bit rubbish as they get paid less than pretty much any unitary authority in the Country. £7,500 for what in some cases is virtually a full time job.
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Oh and you also pay for what you get - Grimsby's Councillors tend to be a bit rubbish as they get paid less than pretty much any unitary authority in the Country. £7,500 for what[b] in some cases is virtually a full time job.


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b]  I think it is for " The Marx of The Marsh"


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