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Alfie
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The problem we have is the council,

It's a pity we do not have anybody on the council fighting our corner


This is great.

NELC need to save nearly £76m by 2017. Please enlighten us as to where and why a new football stadium would be anywhere near the top of a list of priorities for an organisation responsible for dealing with massive social and economic issues.
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We´ll keep debating ideal sites till Kingdom Come. Redevelop Blundell Park. It might cost more but in the long run, we own the site, we have spent excrement loads on failed plans so far, and BP is an amazing location for a football ground. What other football ground can you walk down a seafront to, then see a view of ships out at sea and trains going by? It's got heaps of character and it's a great ground to visit.

We're in the Conference with small gate numbers. Close the main stand whilst redeveloping it. Open half the Osmond to accomodate the Town fans, it's not like we get away supporters to fill half of it anyway.

I know all the arguments against this... costs more, need a new site with better access... but if we're still in the same situation in another 5-10 years without an ideal or feasible location and a council against us, it won't look such a daft idea.
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This is great.

NELC need to save nearly £76m by 2017. Please enlighten us as to where and why a new football stadium would be anywhere near the top of a list of priorities for an organisation responsible for dealing with massive social and economic issues.


All Councils have a huge shortfall to sort and yes, they have to cut expenditure, BUT the other side of the coin is to create income, & one of the ways of doing that is  to sell or rent out  land & buildings they own.
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Aren't there some clubs with agreements that a % of income is given back as well as renting land? Am just thinking about the Coventry city scenario!



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We´ll keep debating ideal sites till Kingdom Come. Redevelop Blundell Park. It might cost more but in the long run, we own the site, we have spent excrement loads on failed plans so far, and BP is an amazing location for a football ground. What other football ground can you walk down a seafront to, then see a view of ships out at sea and trains going by? It's got heaps of character and it's a great ground to visit.

We're in the Conference with small gate numbers. Close the main stand whilst redeveloping it. Open half the Osmond to accomodate the Town fans, it's not like we get away supporters to fill half of it anyway.

I know all the arguments against this... costs more, need a new site with better access... but if we're still in the same situation in another 5-10 years without an ideal or feasible location and a council against us, it won't look such a daft idea.



But the council said they would not be in favour of any more development at BP. The idea of having a new ground first came about because GTFC approached the then council about possible redevelopment of BP. The council said they would rather the club moved to another site and they would help them help them to do that. I don't think they meant help in monetary terms but advice on possible sites and a more favourable attitude. I cannot see this council or any other in the future granting any kind of planning permission to develop BP. Any increase in capacity, even by 2 or 3 thousand, would be thrown out because of parking and/or congestion. It may seem ok now but I'm sure the council would put all obstacles in the way so that a move becomes the only option.


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Perhaps it would useful to know from the councillors where they would like to see a new stadium developed that they get right behind and support.
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Perhaps it would useful to know from the councillors where they would like to see a new stadium developed that they get right behind and support.


Errmmm didnt they approve Great Coates and the club let the planning permission slip in the end?


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All Councils have a huge shortfall to sort and yes, they have to cut expenditure, BUT the other side of the coin is to create income, & one of the ways of doing that is  to sell or rent out  land & buildings they own.


No problem with that whatsoever but this idea that GTFC should be straight at the top of their list of priorities and NELC should be crippling themselves to deliver a football stadium on a plate for the club, as consistently endorsed by grimsbypete and others, is a joke.

Quite frankly they have much bigger and more important problems to deal with.
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No problem with that whatsoever but this idea that GTFC should be straight at the top of their list of priorities and NELC should be crippling themselves to deliver a football stadium on a plate for the club, as consistently endorsed by grimsbypete and others, is a joke.

Quite frankly they have much bigger and more important problems to deal with.




I don't believe Town are asking for money, all they are asking the council for  is help and support in whatever form to make the new ground happen.
At the end of the day, what is the greatest free advert for any town/city, it's football club.


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No problem with that whatsoever but this idea that GTFC should be straight at the top of their list of priorities and NELC should be crippling themselves to deliver a football stadium on a plate for the club, as consistently endorsed by grimsbypete and others, is a joke.

Quite frankly they have much bigger and more important problems to deal with.


Where did I say that ?

I have noticed you always enjoy having a pop at me at every opportunity ,

Pity you have nothing better to do,

We have been waiting over 10 years for a new stadium so I think asking from time to time why  nothing seems to be moving on that front seems reasonable to me.


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