I think it's time now John

Quoted from GorgeousGeorge

Hopefully I haven't earnt the badge of serial moaner, I do try and keep things constructive and avoid knee jerks?  A quarter of the season gone and we are still as hit and miss as we were the same time last year.

Considering we reached the playoffs last season, doesn't that kind of not support your argument though ?

Quoted from GorgeousGeorge

In my opinion we have the players to be looking down on the rest of this league

That's a bold statement !
Even after tonight ?!

I'm of the opinion we'd be better off getting a pacy left winger (and maybe a QUALITY striker) than paying off Hurst expecting the next superman to turn us into Man City.
Especially with Thomas, Pittman and Arnold still to return.

Quoted from 1739

'Its early days' 'Our luck hasn't been with us' 'Injuries haven't helped'

Generally true !

Quoted from ackomariner

See you've got the Red Cross brigade after you Johnny  

Try being in my shoes...

Quoted from GorgeousGeorge

Based on a long history of reading and enjoying your posts I guess I've built up a fairly healthy respect for your opinion.  Hopefully you'll understand I wasn't trying a trade union (esque) rallying call for action.  I was merely expressing my thoughts and frustrations and hopefully not being abrasive to those with differing opinions.

Wow thanks!!!!

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Yes..

Well I'm prepared to wait until you've got your "That Hurst, he's not a bad manager you know" head on..mind you you could just cut and paste your last grovelling apology. In the meantime please provide some evidence....

Quoted from barralad

My comment related solely to the assertion that the vast majority of fans want a managerial change. There is absolutely no evidence to support that statement...

Will the Trust be canvassing members to gauge support or lack of for Paul Hurst in order to represent their views then?

Quoted from Civvy at last

Having followed Town for 40 years + I would say yes.

It may not be the vast opinion of those that still go (however even that is rapidly changing).  It's about the 30 or so of us that used to go (even until fairly recently) that is now down to about 10.  It is about those that now prefer jeff stelling to BP and will be hard to win back.  Paul Hurst has contributed to that with his negative style of football and lack of promotion.  The likes of you and I Barra may be hard to deter.  But where it not for taking my 14 year old son, I do believe that Sky Sports and a few beers may well be the better option than GTFC under Paul Hurst/John Fenty.  Harsh maybe, but pretty much true.

Absolutely on the money for me.

Results like last night used to make me livid, now I'm just utterly apathetic.

The worst part is that it's so predictable.  Last nights result wasn't a shock.  Almost as predictable as Hurst leaving changes too late in the game and when he does bring subs on merely going like for like - a central midfielder for a central midfielder and a striker for a striker, no real attempt to change things around.

I've followed Town all over the country and I'm now one of the people who prefers a few beers &  Soccer Saturday with my mates rather than BP.  There's half a dozen of us now who would/should be at BP but have had their love for the club sucked away by Fenty & Hurst.

Quoted from barralad

Well I'm prepared to wait until you've got your "That Hurst, he's not a bad manager you know" head on..mind you you could just cut and paste your last grovelling apology. In the meantime please provide some evidence....

I must admit i was badly sucked in after gateshead and alfreton but i was wrong and many on here will vouch i have always been the same with my views that hurst wont take us up..

I was lead down the path while optomistic and gave him another chance but i was wrong and he wont suck me in again with his false hope..

Its people like you i feel sorry for who for some insane reason still believe he is the right man, as for a grovelling apology you got more chance of paul dropping lenny !

Quoted from DavidB

'The majority of Town fans'? - a very bold claim!

Evidence please (from a robust sample size and objective research)?!

(Just as no doubt the Daily Mail would claim that the majority of people in Britain want x, y and z based on the more vocal subset of their readership (and the views of the proprietor))

The club/trust aren't going to poll fans on their support (or not) for Hurst so you can only use unofficial polls on here etc as at least an induction of support for Hurst.

The last poll at the beginning of September had over 1000 votes with 70%+ in favour of change, yet it was derided by the rose tinted brigade as not being representative - one thing is for sure, there's a big split amongst the fans and a large number who want change.

There's no doubt the majority of vocal fans want him out , and those who aren't vocal can't be bothered to voice their opinions anymore and can't be bothered to go anymore .

Quoted from Quagmire

The club/trust aren't going to poll fans on their support (or not) for Hurst so you can only use unofficial polls on here etc as at least an induction of support for Hurst.

The last poll at the beginning of September had over 1000 votes with 70%+ in favour of change, yet it was derided by the rose tinted brigade as not being representative - one thing is for sure, there's a big split amongst the fans and a large number who want change.

I would deride a poll on the Fishy, it is a survey of particularly interested fans populating one corner of the internet, and also can people vote twice in it?  I don't know about the last point, am genuinely asking.

I didn't vote in any poll as I am completely on the fence.  Not sure either way but certainly agree there is a split amongst the fans on Hurst.  The one thing I hope is not to read any posts wanting us to lose so he will go.  I hope all on here and at the games will hope that Hurst proves us wrong and not want him out so badly they start opposing the team.  

Quoted from ginnywings

I know a lot of Town fans and the majority want a change of manager. I'd say about 80% of those i've talked to. Surely that must be a fair representation across the board, or i just know a lot of miserable sods.  

I could have wrote that myself , as it is much the same with the fans i know . Why wouldnt the opinions of the fans using this forum not be a reflection of general opinion?
Civvy at last makes an excellent point regarding those that have given up attending.