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All away, with the FA cup to follow could be four?


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Home or away we do not fear anybody,

BUT

The Wrexham and Torquay ones will be hard.

I will be at Dartford so we have got to win there.


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All away, with the FA cup to follow could be four?


But we've got two Tuesday home games sandwiched in there.

On the 30th Sept, and 7th Oct.


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Our season normally comes unstuck once the fixture chaos caused by the weather and FA Trophy kicks in. Let's hope we get knocked out in Round 1 and we have a temperate winter, then we'll be fine  


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Have to say Rob, I don't think there's anything wrong with playing a much weakened team or 2nd string in the Trophy.
As you progress closer to Wembley, the temptation of course will be to put out a stronger side.
I think we need to resist it tbh.
That's not to say I won't be hoping the 2nd string can make it to Wembley and win.
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Have to say Rob, I don't think there's anything wrong with playing a much weakened team or 2nd string in the Trophy.
As you progress closer to Wembley, the temptation of course will be to put out a stronger side.
I think we need to resist it tbh.
That's not to say I won't be hoping the 2nd string can make it to Wembley and win.


I disagree because it trumps league games. If it was a midweek competition we could treat it as a sort of replacement for the reserves but it interferes with our primary purpose of  promotion by postponing league games. I know that the other teams we are due to play could cause postponements but by being in it we are certain to cause postponements after the first round or two.


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Ah yes, a good point !
I completely forgot about that.
Thanks for pointing that out, I tend to agree with you then !
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In the clubs defence we did play a weakened team last year but how many of us would've been drunk off after that excrement journey to Cambridge, in the semi final if he'd played a 'weakened' team.

When you get so far you just want to get to wembley, and at the end of the day, who doesn't?


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I disagree because it trumps league games. If it was a midweek competition we could treat it as a sort of replacement for the reserves but it interferes with our primary purpose of  promotion by postponing league games. I know that the other teams we are due to play could cause postponements but by being in it we are certain to cause postponements after the first round or two.


Completely agree with this - it seems to me the last two seasons we've had a load of momentum in the league and then from November to January we only play a league game every 3 weeks and shock horror our then it all goes to pot. I'd field a side that allowed macca a rest in goal in round one of the trophy.

No team has won the conference and the trophy in the same season.
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In the clubs defence we did play a weakened team last year but how many of us would've been drunk off after that excrement journey to Cambridge, in the semi final if he'd played a 'weakened' team.

When you get so far you just want to get to wembley, and at the end of the day, who doesn't?

Yes, a good point !
I was there in the Upper clapping away to the Wembley chants when we beat Dartford with a full strength side.
You've got me wondering now...  

It's all well and good me saying we need to resist the temptation to play a strong team.
But from a financial (and fan !) perspective it's easier said than done the closer you get.
It's natural for people to at least believe we can be successful on all fronts.
Maybe when you're that close you've GOT to go for it.
But where do you draw the line, QF ? Not easy is it...

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No team has won the conference and the trophy in the same season.

Not far off though !!!
York won the playoffs and the Trophy in 2011/12.
Cambridge won the playoffs and the Trophy last season !
I'm not a big believer in stats anyway + records are there to be broken...
Would be quite easy to say Town haven't gained promotion for x years, but doesn't mean I should therefore conclude I don't think we can.

Quoted from horsforthmariner
Completely agree with this - it seems to me the last two seasons we've had a load of momentum in the league and then from November to January we only play a league game every 3 weeks and shock horror our then it all goes to pot

But how much is down to the weather ? You tell me...

I see Rob has put up a question on the home page.
I THINK he's right, but I need to give it some serious thought. (I'm here to be persuaded !)
Cos it MAY make complete sense to exit the Trophy early (even with a weakened team).
But any idea of wanting Town to lose just doesn't feel right !  

One thing I'll say is, it a damn good question !
So far I've come up with...

PROS
We'd gain from fringe/youth players (repeatedly) getting a run out.
Financial benefits (how much did we earn from it ?)
Wembley (albeit sounded like a con according to some ! Admittedly I didn't go..)

CONS
Postponing league games
Wanting Town to lose. (i.e. throwing away financial benefits)
God forbid if we tail off in the league, do we start to kick ourselves for an early Trophy exit ?
Start making big changes people complaining of "tinkering" (or at least they DID before even if we won !)
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