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jock dock tower
December 19, 2012, 12:48pm
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But for Mansfield turning them over, Lincoln would be facing Liverpool in the 3rd round of the F.A. Cup. Had plans been put in place for allocation of tickets for that game, and if so, what was the ground capacity for it? Does it differ from the ground capacity limit for Town's visit, and if so, why?


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If Liverpool had gone to SB. . . it would have been a celebration of football

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Ground capacity dosn't change its currently just over 10000, I believe they can hold around 2300 away fans but that depends on how much segregation they put in between the away fans and home fans as they are both in the same stand. The stand holds 5700 altogther.

Playing us will be considered a high risk game by the police and requires more segregation hence why they have limited the away fans to 1747.

In the FA cup a visiting club is entitled to claim upto 15% of available tickets providing it is in a fully segregated area.  So on that basis Liverpool could only claim upto around 1500 tickets and it would be down to Lincoln to provide more if they wished.
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Officially 10,500 but with the standing area's they have you can cram more in unless Boston visit then it will be less due to the 5XL  


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I've often wondered why a Manchester & Glasgow derby can go ahead with a thin line of stewards and the odd bobby dotted between them, quite happily ...... but for an Imps/Cods fixture they need half the Stand as segregation as Lincs OB cack themselves with fear that its WW3  

How on earth did their forefathers cope with Derby & Sheff Utd back in the 80's, now that was a real invasion?






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Heard they have repaired the plastic seats in the stadium using the ones under the tarpauline so those seats now cannot be used.
The capacity is around 9500.
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I've often wondered why a Manchester & Glasgow derby can go ahead with a thin line of stewards and the odd bobby dotted between them, quite happily ...... but for an Imps/Cods fixture they need half the Stand as segregation as Lincs OB cack themselves with fear that its WW3  

How on earth did their forefathers cope with Derby & Sheff Utd back in the 80's, now that was a real invasion?




Thank god for some sensible conversation.

You're quite right Kev, been to Rome derby and Vienna derby this season, both of which went ahead without any problem.

One could argue that the local rossers are trying to make a name for themselves.

I will be in the home end due to all this stool water regards ticket allocation and I guess I'll won't be the only one.


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Lincolnshire police are woeful at organising anything be it a football match, concert, market etc.

May be if they backed off, allowed fans to breathe so to speak and let the day flow everyone would be happier. However what will happen is a load of over zealous coppers claiming over time will herd and push people to places they don't want to go. They'll annoy people because they'll want to 'stamp their authority'. They'll assume everyone is semacbag who wants to fight in their knock off and snide stone island jumper tey got formas off the market and it'll just rile even the calmest man.


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Playing us will be considered a high risk game by the police and requires more segregation hence why they have limited the away fans to 1747.



Right, so with The game being "high risk" why on earth are they not giving more allocation to town? I can only see this being so there is extra demand for police overtime as they know town fans WILL be going into the home areas.
Season ticket holders not being moved is mumbo jumbo IMHO. LCFC could make (estimated) upwards of £10000 from selling an extra 500 or so seats. Is it just a case of the clubs and/or authority just cutting their noses off to spite their faces?


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There hasn't been an incident with Lincoln since 2005 at there place i don't think so why the need for a over the top police presence , it will be the same at Mansfield on the 29th aswell Nottingham Police and them over the top mansfield stewards trying to kick as many town fans out for standing up , sharp objects !
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There hasn't been an incident with Lincoln since 2005 at there place i don't think so why the need for a over the top police presence , it will be the same at Mansfield on the 29th aswell Nottingham Police and them over the top mansfield stewards trying to kick as many town fans out for standing up , sharp objects !


The only problem I had at Mansfield last year was the que to get in, the stewards and police I spoke to or saw people speaking to wear friendly and polite. There was about 600 of us though so it might be a differant story with 1000+


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At Birmingham City this year they've undergone a sea change in policing, and how they interact with fans. Instead of being the normal kind of in-yer-face-matchday-cop they're now more "ambassadors" of the club, assisting fans rather than railroading them, and chatting with them instead of shouting "move on, herd 'em up"

Policing inside the ground is kept to a minimum, with extra stewards instead, also all working from the same remit. Result? Football as it should be watched, arrests down, and everyone seemingly happy. Is it too much to think that a poky wee derby (in terms of population, not emotion) between us could not be played out in a similar vein, with decent seating allocation where needed for Town fans? Is it really too much to ask, or does Burton dog us wherever we go?


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Heard they have repaired the plastic seats in the stadium using the ones under the tarpauline so those seats now cannot be used.
The capacity is around 9500.




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Quoted from jock dock tower
At Birmingham City this year they've undergone a sea change in policing, and how they interact with fans. Instead of being the normal kind of in-yer-face-matchday-cop they're now more "ambassadors" of the club, assisting fans rather than railroading them, and chatting with them instead of shouting "move on, herd 'em up"

Policing inside the ground is kept to a minimum, with extra stewards instead, also all working from the same remit. Result? Football as it should be watched, arrests down, and everyone seemingly happy. Is it too much to think that a poky wee derby (in terms of population, not emotion) between us could not be played out in a similar vein, with decent seating allocation where needed for Town fans? Is it really too much to ask, or does Burton dog us wherever we go?


That's interesting. Back in the 90's following Buckley's team around, the midlands police were about the worst. Very petty and spiteful. Seems like we've still to emerge into the modern day for policing.


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That's interesting. Back in the 90's following Buckley's team around, the midlands police were about the worst. Very petty and spiteful. Seems like we've still to emerge into the modern day for policing.


Totally agree. Remember being thrown into many away ends in the west mids by heavy handed rozzers. West brom and birm city being terrible places to go. And even a 0-0 evening match at Walsall was particularly ott!


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Back around the turn of the millenium they used to house the away fans in the Stacey West stand behind the goal to the left of where we are normally sat. That would of been better for us as we would pack that to the rafters, but from what I can gather teams in Divison Three at the time would only half fill it, so they moved them back into the Co-op stand so they could adjust the segregation line for smaller or bigger games.

I remember they did used to allocate the stand to the right to away fans as well for the bigger games as well as the segregated section in the Co-op. I think, well I would hope Lincoln fans would pack the ground out for our visit, but Sincil Bank is like a ghost town nowadays with just drips and drabs and blotches of fans sat in all stands. It certainly shows the size of the fan base even compared to ours. 7,000 empty seats if that on a regular basis. I actually think we would out number Lincoln fans in there own ground if we had an equal allocation.


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They moved away fans out of the Stacey West because the Gimps fans said that a stand named after two lincoln fans who sadly lost their lives shouldn't house away fans. However, i can also see logic to the argument of moving them because of poor turnouts although Lincoln are hardly in a position to moan about away followings given that theirs are shocking. It must have been easier to police though?


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The police at WBA were back back in the early 80s. At Xmas time.   Somebody near me started singing and 2 coppers got hold of him and took him out.  He had literally not done anything.   We kept quiet after that.
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The police at WBA were back back in the early 80s. At Xmas time.   Somebody near me started singing and 2 coppers got hold of him and took him out.  He had literally not done anything.   We kept quiet after that.
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