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Criticizes the whole back 4 - "all over the place". Says a lot of them [not the back 4] "want to do their own thing".
Said we stepped back at 2-2 and "let them back off the hook again".
Said first goal came from Dis dribbling out of his own box. 3rd one came from dropping deep.
"Not good enough" "Mentality problem".
Mentions something about players thinking it's Hyde.
"We've torn strips off em [the players]" "a few more men out there" "they've got to grow up"
"Today I thought they started very laxidaisical and they couldn't turn it on and off."
Not a happy bunny !
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Honest enough interview, if his usual peevish self. Elding not injured. Didn't elaborate. I'd like to hear Tondeur ask better questions but think he gets intimidated by Scott. Glad he didn't bulls**t. It wasn't good enough and he said so.
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Kept his control well considering the disapointment of the result
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November 6, 2012, 10:32pm |
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I'd like to hear Tondeur ask better questions but think he gets intimidated by Scott. Glad he didn't bulls**t.
Tondeur never bullsh1ts
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Would have been interesting had Burnsey had a go
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I think sometimes Scott's emotions gets the better of him, was there anything why miller was dropped if he criticises the whole back 4 they changed it so that's their fault.
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Tell you what next time we "start slow" JT needs to grow a pair and push the difficult question WHY cos it's obvious that's part the reason and what's costing us.
Although maybe Scott has just alluded to half the problem.
Right, Champions league highlights...
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Yes, but its the usual 'honest' interview we have heard too many times, sorry but they are the managers,thats what they are paid for, they should be installing a winning attitude in the players minds before kick off and they clearly aren't, despite our good position in the table, this is a league that is infinitely winnable. I played for a long, long time and good managers make sure your attitude is right before a game - i have heard too often from S& H that their players weren't right mentally, very easy to say after a game, about time they put it right before a game, particularly against the 'lesser' teams.
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Maybe the players need rocket up their bottom before they start the game, they start games to wishy washy.
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Yep, good points. I'd also have liked to hear his opinion on the referee.
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How can you hear an honest interview too many times? He pulls no punches and makes no excuses, the way it should be. No matter what managers say, at any level, sometimes players go out expecting to win, anybody who has played the game will no what I mean.
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A manager can get a player in the right frame of mind before a game,
BUT
After a player steps over the white line, its up to him to perform,
Some players think when they are playing a team near the bottom it will be easy,
They are wrong,
You have to think the team you are playing are better than you what ever their position in the league,
Once they realise that, we will win against the bottom teams.
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November 6, 2012, 10:58pm |
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was there anything why miller was dropped if he criticises the whole back 4 they changed it so that's their fault.
Something was mentioned yeah. Think he said Pearson had been outstanding or something but you're best off to waiting for the interview.
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How can you hear an honest interview too many times? He pulls no punches and makes no excuses, the way it should be. No matter what managers say, at any level, sometimes players go out expecting to win, anybody who has played the game will no what I mean.
Well i played the game for 30 odd years, anyone can be 'honest' after a game, my point is that their 'honesty' could be avoided if they installed the right mental approach into their players - getting into players minds is what makes good managers apart from average, look at Holloway for instance, apart from Leicester he has probably overachieved as a manager because he gets into their heads in a positive way, managers need to manage, but also need to be man mangers, doubt Scott can do this, not sure about Hurst.
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Something was mentioned yeah. Think he said Pearson had been outstanding or something but you're best off to waiting for the interview.
Alright mate cheers, gutted about tonight but I just wish they get them hyped up before kick off, even though I only played Sunday league my attitude was that if I've come off the pitch not knackered then I haven't done enough
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Yeah appreciate your feelings mate. Ah well roll on Saturday...
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I think sometimes Scott's emotions gets the better of him, was there anything why miller was dropped if he criticises the whole back 4 they changed it so that's their fault.
Exactly....Pearson was poor this evening but i think the early goal and the nature of it shook them all, it was like the cup match from the other week after that. Dont think we stepped off either, we were gunning for it at 2-2.
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Starting to wonder whether I've got that bit right or not now. Anyone else listen to the interview ?
Maybe best to wait untl the interview comes up. Just thought people might appreciate what was said.
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Well i played the game for 30 odd years, anyone can be 'honest' after a game, my point is that their 'honesty' could be avoided if they installed the right mental approach into their players - getting into players minds is what makes good managers apart from average, look at Holloway for instance, apart from Leicester he has probably overachieved as a manager because he gets into their heads in a positive way, managers need to manage, but also need to be man mangers, doubt Scott can do this, not sure about Hurst.
True, I've no idea what level you played at, but say local league, you know if your playing in a good side and playing a not so strong team sometimes its hard to get yourself up for a game, and many others around you. Due to the nature of the opposition, you sometimes get a big wake up call the 1st 30 minutes and go on to win the game. Last night, we got that and in that time conceded twice due to errors. I sometimes think there is only so much managers can do regards players mentality. Each to there own though.
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True, I've no idea what level you played at, but say local league, you know if your playing in a good side and playing a not so strong team sometimes its hard to get yourself up for a game, and many others around you. Due to the nature of the opposition, you sometimes get a big wake up call the 1st 30 minutes and go on to win the game. Last night, we got that and in that time conceded twice due to errors. I sometimes think there is only so much managers can do regards players mentality. Each to there own though.
I accept what you say about underestimating opponents is a fact at every level (mine was County league/NE Counties)i, but my point is that is precisely when good managers earn their corn, at a high level you do not see Fergusons sides often fail against lowly opponents and its not all about shouting and ranting at the players, its all about getting into their heads, when our managers do that they wouldn't need to make 'honest' assessments or 'tear a strip' off the players after poor results. As you say though its all about opinions - it would be a boring world if we all agreed on everything!
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I dont disagree with you pete but players at our level are there for a reason, and one of those is inconsistentcy.
If Town players could perform at the top of their game all the time they would be at a higher level.
Management has certainly changed since I played. Players dont respond to the old threatening methods.
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I dont disagree with you pete but players at our level are there for a reason, and one of those is inconsistentcy.
If Town players could perform at the top of their game all the time they would be at a higher level.
Management has certainly changed since I played. Players dont respond to the old threatening methods.
trouble is Chris that losing games like that are the reason why we won't end up as champions - have a look at the records of stevenage, crawley, fleetwood etc - they generally only had 1 , possibly, 2 'shock results' all season and ground out draws from losing positions, late wins from stalemates. we don't do that as often as we need to i'm afraid. this attitude thing has to be addressed urgently because we're hearing the same refrain a little too often
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These player are conference level for a reason, they lack Constancy if they had that we would be 10 points clear, thought Scott's interview was spot on, honest, to the point and not a rant, we slated Woods for lack of passion we slate Scott for saying it as it is, anyone there last night would agree with his statement UTM
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Having just watched the highlights think Scott's clutching at straws a bit with the "Dis dribbled the ball out of defence" thing. I didn't see in the buildup anyway !? Maybe wrong but agree with others, guess some of it is probably down to frustration. tbh I'd be suprised and disappointed if we didn't expect teams like Hyde to come at us like a bull in a chinashop, especially on their own patch - think we should have expected it... Whether we're tight at the back or not wondering whether the answer is to control games(easier said than done) instead of sitting back (though it seems to have worked ok before) Hyde looked a decent side going forward with their passing and just wonder if we've got to work our socks off to get a grip of possession in these games early doors. Thankfully we looked decent enough ourselves going forward. Shame Cook didn't square it to Hannah in acres of space to tap in and would have also liked to have seen Hannah waving his arms around BEFORE not after. But can't knock Hannah though, what a superb goal with his wrong foot !!!
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I dont disagree with you pete but players at our level are there for a reason, and one of those is inconsistentcy.
This is a brilliant point.
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I still put the main responsibility down to the managers. Regarding the issue of "players being inconsistent": Crawley, Fleetwood, Stevenage and Burton etc players were also playing at this level when they got promoted. They were consistent.
Our managers are not being effective enough and/or the players just switch off. It happens more with teams at the bottom of the league or smaller teams (Dartford). We maybe have a superior attitude and these teams raise their game.
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I still put the main responsibility down to the managers. Regarding the issue of "players being inconsistent": Crawley, Fleetwood, Stevenage and Burton etc players were also playing at this level when they got promoted. They were consistent.
Our managers are not being effective enough and/or the players just switch off. It happens more with teams at the bottom of the league or smaller teams (Dartford). We maybe have a superior attitude and these teams raise their game.
Good post, spot on IMO
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Well it would be a bit suprising if the champions weren't but that's what we're striving for.
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True, I've no idea what level you played at, but say local league, you know if your playing in a good side and playing a not so strong team sometimes its hard to get yourself up for a game, and many others around you. Due to the nature of the opposition, you sometimes get a big wake up call the 1st 30 minutes and go on to win the game. Last night, we got that and in that time conceded twice due to errors. I sometimes think there is only so much managers can do regards players mentality. Each to there own though.
In teams I've played and managed you approach games in a set manner, the tougher the opposition the more the game is like cat and mouse. Against weak opposition we went from the off and got stuck into them. They'll give you a good fight but sooner or later they will run out of (a) steam or (b) idea's. The league position doesn't lie and to win more than you lose you have to be ruthless not toothless. It's the managers and captain to fire the players up and until I see that from the off we are missing a midfield general who can do that.
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