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MK Done at home to AFC Wimbledon will happen in the FA Cup if both teams win their home replays.

This would be an historic meeting (the first time they have met).  Wimbledon would have a great motivation to win, and not just for a possible plum tie in round 3.  They would have history, tradition and integrity on their side.

(Supposed nobody has posted about this potential historic and ironic meeting).
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Really hope this happens and  Wimbledon absolutely batter them. Would be a quality atmosphere with the pure hatred from the Wimbledon fans.
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Same was going to happen about 3 years ago but didn't the afc fans said they hope it never happens! Is that still the feeling now they are in the football league?
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Would love to see Wimbledon batter them, but I suspect most Wimbledon fans are likely to boycott the game.
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I hope its televised, it would attract a lot of AFC sympathisers


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This was close to happening a few years ago in the second round (I believe MK Dons lost a reply which prevented it). AFC Wimbledon made a statement stating that any game held at MK would be boycotted by AFC supporters as it would be putting money straight in Winklemans pocket
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I thought it was last year not sure though ? Did afc come out on about the team might decide not to play (this time they said they will play and take it as an ordinary proffesional game)


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But wouldn't any game at Kingsmeadow 'line his pockets' too, since they share FA Cup revenue?
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AFC fans are likely to boycott it, the club has released a statement saying they will be professional and play the game but they'd rather it didn't happen.
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Should be good for goals galore.


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York will win the replay anyway.


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mk dons need to drop the word don from the clubs name, this kind of thing just shows how a lot of people don't care about the fans of a club,what happened to the old wimbledon f.c was a disgrace,and i for one will never put money into that bastardised franchised souless club in that plastic town of milton keynes,hell,they all supported man utd before mk came along,bloody southern shandy drinking puffs,i bet they are all middle-class  twits.
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Bet ITV go for the fixture, and turns out to be Cambridge City v York City !!!!!


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I wonder if MK Dons know that AFC Wimbledon is actually his father?


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AFCW are no better than MKD. They want to destroy the greyhound stadium at Plough Lane and build a ground in its place. I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.


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How is that in any way similar?


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AFCW are no better than MKD. They want to destroy the greyhound stadium at Plough Lane and build a ground in its place. I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.


eh?
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That'll never happen cos Merton council are more against a new football stadium than our own bunch .


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That'll never happen cos Merton council are more against a new football stadium than our own bunch .


Doesn't make it OK though even if it is the case. The fact that they are trying to put another sporting outfit out of business is deplorable given what happened to them. You could argue that what AFCW are trying to do with the greyhound track is even worse than what happened to them.  It would be the end of all dog racing in London.


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ESPN are already sniffing around a potential tie. They are showing the AFC Wimbledon v York replay live next Monday.


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Quoted from GrimRob
AFCW are no better than MKD. They want to destroy the greyhound stadium at Plough Lane and build a ground in its place. I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.


This.




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AFCW are no better than MKD. They want to destroy the greyhound stadium at Plough Lane and build a ground in its place. I have no sympathy with them whatsoever.


Aren't there moves to make it a multi-purpose venue where the two can co-exist?

Also, that isn't really the same as taking a club 75 miles away from its traditional home is it? Wimbledon Greyhound Stadium is in dire need of redevelopment by all accounts and if that means sharing with AFCW, then so be it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19850141


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Doesn't make it OK though even if it is the case. The fact that they are trying to put another sporting outfit out of business is deplorable given what happened to them. You could argue that what AFCW are trying to do with the greyhound track is even worse than what happened to them.  It would be the end of all dog racing in London.


Greyhound racing is God's way of telling you you've got a gambling problem! It's not a sport and the dogshit created because of it contributes to global warming!

Not a sport!
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Greyhound racing is God's way of telling you you've got a gambling problem! It's not a sport and the dogshit created because of it contributes to global warming!

Not a sport!


FFS


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Doesn't make it OK though even if it is the case. The fact that they are trying to put another sporting outfit out of business is deplorable given what happened to them. You could argue that what AFCW are trying to do with the greyhound track is even worse than what happened to them.  It would be the end of all dog racing in London.


That's a bit dramatic


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That's a bit dramatic


Not really. Walthamstow and Catford are both closed now, leaving just Romford if Wimbledon closed.
I agree it's not a sport, but always a good night out with friends, and it would be a shame for it to go.

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Well it's looking almost certain now. AFC Wimbledon are currently 4-2 up in extra-time so if they win (which they should) then, unless Cambridge CITY can pull off an almighty shock by winning at Franchise Scum FC it's ON.


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Lovely been waiting for this for ages.
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AFC Wimbledon beat York 4-3 AET tonight so a Franchise Scum win at home to Cambridge City tomorrow should be pretty much a formality.


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Aren't there moves to make it a multi-purpose venue where the two can co-exist?

Also, that isn't really the same as taking a club 75 miles away from its traditional home is it? Wimbledon Greyhound Stadium is in dire need of redevelopment by all accounts and if that means sharing with AFCW, then so be it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19850141


If you read that article closely (it's very poorly written) you'll see that AFCW and the owners of the stadium want to build just a football ground and get rid of greyhound racing altogether. There are also other proposals to keep greyhound racing there which hopefully will come to pass but they don't come from AFCW, It's like BP being converted into a speedway track!

It's far worse than what the then owners of MKD did (which is so long ago it's ancient history anyway) because at the time Wimbledon FC were homeless and had been for a number of years.  They may well have folded in the madness of the years after the transfer to MK anyway.

I'll be rooting for MKD if it comes to it and not the stadium thieves.


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I'll be rooting for MKD if it comes to it and not the stadium thieves.


As opposed to the team who stole a clubs entire history and identity you mean?  


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I don't really care who wins if they play.

MK Dons is marginally easier to spell but AFC Wimbledon is higher alphabetically - its a close call.


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As opposed to the team who stole a clubs entire history and identity you mean?  


Exactly. If Winkleman wanted to set up a football club in MK, he should have done it the way AFCW did, ie start from the bottom...or plough his money into the existing club at MK.


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I don't see how a club wanting to build a stadium on a dog track is much different from a club building on someone's allotments / houses / businesses. They will receive payment/ compensation whereas the Wimbledon fans got nothing.
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Exactly. If Winkleman wanted to set up a football club in MK, he should have done it the way AFCW did, ie start from the bottom...or plough his money into the existing club at MK.


It was actually existing clubs... MK Borough and MK City as I recall it

Or he could simply have chosen Bletchley or Wolverton who were established well before the "new city" got beyond concept stage

AFC Wimbledon may be doing wrong in Rob's eyes but imho MK "Dons" should NEVER EVER have been allowed by the FA...an absolute sham(e)
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I don't see how a club wanting to build a stadium on a dog track is much different from a club building on someone's allotments / houses / businesses. They will receive payment/ compensation whereas the Wimbledon fans got nothing.


They didn't lose anything either. Their team was moved (from nowhere as they didn't have a home and faced oblivion) to Milton Keynes which is quite close to London anyway. Some fans stayed with MKD, most chose to support a new club, it was their choice.

For people who race dogs and the many thousands of spectators who watch it in London there is nothing on the table to replace it and nowhere else to go.


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It was actually existing clubs... MK Borough and MK City as I recall it

Or he could simply have chosen Bletchley or Wolverton who were established well before the "new city" got beyond concept stage

AFC Wimbledon may be doing wrong in Rob's eyes but imho MK "Dons" should NEVER EVER have been allowed by the FA...an absolute sham(e)


But using wimbledons history (and more importantly, league status).

How the FA ever allowed this to happen is beyond me.


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AFC Wimbledon may be doing wrong in Rob's eyes but imho MK "Dons" should NEVER EVER have been allowed by the FA...an absolute sham(e)


Agreed, the rules have been tightened since hopefully.


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They didn't lose anything either. Their team was moved (from nowhere as they didn't have a home and faced oblivion) to Milton Keynes which is quite close to London anyway. Some fans stayed with MKD, most chose to support a new club, it was their choice.

For people who race dogs and the many thousands of spectators who watch it in London there is nothing on the table to replace it and nowhere else to go.


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FFS how much longer are folk going to wobble on about this issue - it's history, it's over and done with.

AFCW are now in the Football League and don't need (if they ever did) anyone's sympathy or  a group of nutters producing T-Shirts for 'em

They are big boys now and all but a few total idiot hardcore supporters should have realised football is a business where tradition comes a distant second - Dons will stuff them in the next round hopefully


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If you read that article closely (it's very poorly written) you'll see that AFCW and the owners of the stadium want to build just a football ground and get rid of greyhound racing altogether. There are also other proposals to keep greyhound racing there which hopefully will come to pass but they don't come from AFCW, It's like BP being converted into a speedway track!

It's far worse than what the then owners of MKD did (which is so long ago it's ancient history anyway) because at the time Wimbledon FC were homeless and had been for a number of years.  They may well have folded in the madness of the years after the transfer to MK anyway.

I'll be rooting for MKD if it comes to it and not the stadium thieves.


It is poorly written, hence my misunderstanding.  

Wimbledon FC had been trying to get back to Merton for a number of years, but Norwegian owners in the 90s had made it abundantly clear that they had no interest in sustaining WFC as a South London club. They wanted to move them to Dublin at one stage as I recall, which shows the only interest from an investor's point of view was their League place. They were undoubtedly a small club, certainly too small for the Premiership and possibly even the Championship, but they still had their place at the heart of the community in Wimbledon just as many small clubs do now.

The thing for the people of Wimbledon is that WFC may as well have folded. The club left the area taking the community work and employment with it and they had to start again with a wholly new club. So far as the people of South London were concerned, Wimbledon FC folded in 2004 when they moved to Milton Keynes. The effect on the community was the same.



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Quoted from Ipswin
FFS how much longer are folk going to wobble on about this issue - it's history, it's over and done with.

AFCW are now in the Football League and don't need (if they ever did) anyone's sympathy or  a group of nutters producing T-Shirts for 'em

They are big boys now and all but a few total idiot hardcore supporters should have realised football is a business where tradition comes a distant second - Dons will stuff them in the next round hopefully


It's no wonder tradition comes second when people have an attitude like yours. What happened was disgraceful; it's important to 'wobble' on about the issue to stop anything like it ever happening again.
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2-0 to MK now.

It's going to be one heck of a tie in Round 2.


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MK dons winning 3-0. It is going to happen now.
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Hope not. Decent league 1 team at home to a poor league 2 one. No atmosphere as home fans are all Man U fans and away fans won't be there.


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Won't somebody PLEASE think of the greyhounds!
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They didn't lose anything either. Their team was moved (from nowhere as they didn't have a home and faced oblivion) to Milton Keynes which is quite close to London anyway. Some fans stayed with MKD, most chose to support a new club, it was their choice.

For people who race dogs and the many thousands of spectators who watch it in London there is nothing on the table to replace it and nowhere else to go.


They can go here : http://www.greyhound-racing.info/milton-keynes-greyhound-stadium.html

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fyi you are arguing with the so called 'linesman' who still holds a grudge against the Germans.

Says all you need to know really.


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Dont see the big fuss? They'll be no AFC fans there, so half empty ground with 2 average lower league teams with players who probably really don't give a monkeys. Sounds amazing.

As for people saying about the Greyhounds? Its no different to us wanting to build on peoples allotments or whatever.

Im sure people would change there tune if what happened to Wimbledon happened to us.
Winklemans a girl private and his club is a fraud.
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Winkleman is a girl private, simple as and his club are scum.

However few Wimbledon will go to the game  and if Wimbledon carry on as they are they could end up being non league again...


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FFS how much longer are folk going to wobble on about this issue - it's history, it's over and done with.

AFCW are now in the Football League and don't need (if they ever did) anyone's sympathy or  a group of nutters producing T-Shirts for 'em

They are big boys now and all but a few total idiot hardcore supporters should have realised football is a business where tradition comes a distant second - Dons will stuff them in the next round hopefully


are you sure your a football supporter? why bother with the f.a cup at all eh,just hand it to man utd every may,after all they are tops when it comes to the "business" which according to you is what its all about. tradition is what makes this country the envy of the world,thankfully enough people here agree with this that it drowns out idiots like you,i bet you didn,t bother wearing a poppy either.
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Exactly. If Winkleman wanted to set up a football club in MK, he should have done it the way AFCW did, ie start from the bottom...or plough his money into the existing club at MK.


the best outcome would be for a plane load of plastic mancs/scousers from grimsby to crash onto the pitch at mk frauds wiping out their mercenary players,taking out the stands with all the lambrini s swilling southern ponces mk frauds "fans" ending up in the centre of that god-forsaken capital of urban greyness and conformity known as milton-fu.king keynes and  releasing a toxic gas cloud that wipes the whole place out..........................................apart from this im not bothered
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the best outcome would be for a plane load of plastic mancs/scousers from grimsby to crash onto the pitch at mk frauds wiping out their mercenary players,taking out the stands with all the lambrini s swilling southern ponces mk frauds "fans" ending up in the centre of that god-forsaken capital of urban greyness and conformity known as milton-fu.king keynes and  releasing a toxic gas cloud that wipes the whole place out..........................................apart from this im not bothered


Are you on home leave from a secure institution by any chance?



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If Greyhound Racing was so beloved of Londoners then how come Walthamstow Stadium closed?


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Quoted from the ace face


the best outcome would be for a plane load of plastic mancs/scousers from grimsby to crash onto the pitch at mk frauds wiping out their mercenary players,taking out the stands with all the lambrini s swilling southern ponces mk frauds "fans" ending up in the centre of that god-forsaken capital of urban greyness and conformity known as milton-fu.king keynes and  releasing a toxic gas cloud that wipes the whole place out..........................................apart from this im not bothered


To be honest having lived in MK for more years than I care to remember, urban greyness is not something I'd describe it as

One thing they got right when they developed the place was to allow for a lot of parks, green spaces, trees etc so it's not as bleak as some would have you believe

Imho though the "new city" itself has no soul....just like the football club that currently resides there  
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If Greyhound Racing was so beloved of Londoners then how come Walthamstow Stadium closed?


No idea but you may have noticed property is quite expensive in London.

A greyhound stadium is used 3 times a week, 52 weeks a year. That's over 150 nights out. taking a lot more people than most football grounds accomodate all year round.

Whether you like or disagree with greyhound racing the general point is that AFCW are no angels themselves, and to portray the match as good v evil as some are doing is wrong. The boards of both clubs are doing whatever they can to achieve their goals and if others stand in their way then they seem to have a very similar attitude - sod them.


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Can you just imagine how every Town fan would feel if Winkleman had decided to buy Grimsby Town at the time and move the club to say, Wakefield, a place not know for it's football team. He builds a nice new shiny all-seater stadium and renames the team Wakefield Mariners. The existing club in Wakefield (which I believe there is one further down the pyramid, akin to where Milton Keynes City were) is forced to fold and Grimsby Town fans decide to start their own team, as Wimbledon fans did.

15 years along the line when AFC Grimsby have got back into the league comes the draw Wakefield Mariners v AFC Grimsby. Just ask yourself how you would feel in this instance and then realise why there is still so much fuss about what happened.


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Can you just imagine how every Town fan would feel if Winkleman had decided to buy Grimsby Town at the time and move the club to say, Wakefield, a place not know for it's football team. He builds a nice new shiny all-seater stadium and renames the team Wakefield Mariners. The existing club in Wakefield (which I believe there is one further down the pyramid, akin to where Milton Keynes City were) is forced to fold and Grimsby Town fans decide to start their own team, as Wimbledon fans did.

15 years along the line when AFC Grimsby have got back into the league comes the draw Wakefield Mariners v AFC Grimsby. Just ask yourself how you would feel in this instance and then realise why there is still so much fuss about what happened.


I'd probably go on the train to Wakefield, watch the match and then return home.


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Can you just imagine how every Town fan would feel if Winkleman had decided to buy Grimsby Town at the time and move the club to say, Wakefield, a place not know for it's football team. He builds a nice new shiny all-seater stadium and renames the team Wakefield Mariners. The existing club in Wakefield (which I believe there is one further down the pyramid, akin to where Milton Keynes City were) is forced to fold and Grimsby Town fans decide to start their own team, as Wimbledon fans did.

15 years along the line when AFC Grimsby have got back into the league comes the draw Wakefield Mariners v AFC Grimsby. Just ask yourself how you would feel in this instance and then realise why there is still so much fuss about what happened.


Well said Les....couldn't have described the situation any better.

Can you imagine some other bunch of franchise no marks singing "Up The Mariners" Doesn't bear thinking about imho
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15 years along the line AFC Grimsby have got back into the league
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Now that part sounds excellent - could be the only way it ever happens

Mind you I like the rich guy buying us and building a nice new stadium idea too



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would there be some unwritten rule in football that if GTFC went bust / relocated why I shouldn't start supporting Grimsby Borough over a phoenix club?
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No idea but you may have noticed property is quite expensive in London.

A greyhound stadium is used 3 times a week, 52 weeks a year. That's over 150 nights out. taking a lot more people than most football grounds accomodate all year round.

Whether you like or disagree with greyhound racing the general point is that AFCW are no angels themselves, and to portray the match as good v evil as some are doing is wrong. The boards of both clubs are doing whatever they can to achieve their goals and if others stand in their way then they seem to have a very similar attitude - sod them.


Property is a damn site more expensive in Wimbledon than it is in Walthamstow, so it would have made more sense to have sold Wimbledon off to property developer types and leave Walthamstow as Londons only Dog Track.

I have a problem in that I cannot honestly believe you think AFCW are as evil as illegitimate Franchise Scum just because they want to bulldoze a dog track.



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I don't understand the mentality of the fans who want to boycott the game though, surely you'd want to go and show mk dons what real passion is. You know that with everyones eyes suddenly on this game, the players won't be able to ignore the significance, and it'll probably get very heated, why would you want to miss it. I heard the spokesman say, the players will turn up, the result doesn't matter, then we can get back to our league fixtures which are more important, or something, and I feel like surely beating mk dons would feel like some sort of redemption, surely it'd be a huge boost for the players and fans. Thats like if roger federer slept with andy murrays girlfriend, and they came up against each other in a tennis game and andy murray said I dont want to play instead of saying I want to batter him!
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I don't understand the mentality of the fans who want to boycott the game though, surely you'd want to go and show mk dons what real passion is. You know that with everyones eyes suddenly on this game, the players won't be able to ignore the significance, and it'll probably get very heated, why would you want to miss it. I heard the spokesman say, the players will turn up, the result doesn't matter, then we can get back to our league fixtures which are more important, or something, and I feel like surely beating mk dons would feel like some sort of redemption, surely it'd be a huge boost for the players and fans. Thats like if roger federer slept with andy murrays girlfriend, and they came up against each other in a tennis game and andy murray said I dont want to play instead of saying I want to batter him!

The simple answer is that no AFC fan wants to give that twit Winkelman any money.


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The simple answer is that no AFC fan wants to give that twit Winkelman any money.


I thought in the FA cup it was half and half, and surely with mk dons at home, afc wimbledon would just be taking money
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I thought in the FA cup it was half and half, and surely with mk dons at home, afc wimbledon would just be taking money


Still be giving them half of the gate receipts though wouldn't it. Most AFC fans don't want to be seen giving the guy a single penny and many have also said that they will boycott any replay if needed, for that very reason.



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I have a problem in that I cannot honestly believe you think AFCW are as evil as illegitimate Franchise Scum just because they want to bulldoze a dog track.



I understand that but it's the hypocrisy of AFCW that really gets my goat. Yes they have the widespread support and sympathy of football fans across the country, but that doesn't give them a licence to trample over others. They've done it before too. Their current ground used to be Kingstonian's but they bought the lease from under them and re-branded it as their own. Kingstonian now have to share their own ground. Imagine that ground was BP and Brigg Town took it over and we had to share it!


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I understand that but it's the hypocrisy of AFCW that really gets my goat. Yes they have the widespread support and sympathy of football fans across the country, but that doesn't give them a licence to trample over others. They've done it before too. Their current ground used to be Kingstonian's but they bought the lease from under them and re-branded it as their own. Kingstonian now have to share their own ground. Imagine that ground was BP and Brigg Town took it over and we had to share it!


If you read up on it though you'll see that kingstonian went into administration and had their ground bought out by the khoslas, when the AFC wimbedon trust bought the ground off the khoslas they kept kinstonian on as tenants and charge them a lower rent than the khoslas were charging. Kingstonian keep all their takings from matches. Surely the buyout was in the interest of both parties if kinstonian were struggling financially, and AFC wimbledon probably had very few options. If grimsby town were in administration you'd probably take a brigg town groundshare straight away.
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If you read up on it though you'll see that kingstonian went into administration and had their ground bought out by the khoslas, when the AFC wimbedon trust bought the ground off the khoslas they kept kinstonian on as tenants and charge them a lower rent than the khoslas were charging. Kingstonian keep all their takings from matches. Surely the buyout was in the interest of both parties if kinstonian were struggling financially, and AFC wimbledon probably had very few options. If grimsby town were in administration you'd probably take a brigg town groundshare straight away.


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Unsurprisingly the game is live on TV on the Sunday on ITV1, kick-off 12.30pm.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/News/2012/Nov/mk-dons-afc-wimbledon-itv.aspx


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If Merton Borough Council had supported Wimbledon FC, the club would not have had to relocate.

It was wrong what happened but local businesses, councillors have to take some of the blame.

MK Dons should have started from the bottom though but money talks!


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Quoted from marinerian
If Merton Borough Council had supported Wimbledon FC, the club would not have had to relocate.

It was wrong what happened but local businesses, councillors have to take some of the blame.

MK Dons should have started from the bottom though but money talks!


Yes, but when Wimbledon made noises about investigating a move back to Plough Lane Winkleman was working in the background helping locals who lived around the old ground organise a campaign to stop the move happening.


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Their current ground used to be Kingstonian's but they bought the lease from under them and re-branded it as their own. Kingstonian now have to share their own ground. Imagine that ground was BP and Brigg Town took it over and we had to share it!


Taken from Wikipedia

"Kingsmeadow had been the home of Kingstonian since the club moved there in 1989 from its traditional Richmond Road ground. However the club had hit major financial difficulties following relegation from the Conference. Administrators sold the club, including the lease to the stadium, to businessman Rajesh Khosla and his son, Anup. The Khoslas subsequently transferred ownership of the stadium away from the club and into separate subsidiary companies privately owned by the Khosla family, in a move widely seen as asset stripping.

After an SGM, it was felt by the AFC Wimbledon board of directors that securing ownership of Kingsmeadow would safeguard the ground for the future of both clubs. In March 2003 the Dons Trust members voted to purchase part of the lease for Kingsmeadow and in June 2003 the contract for buying the lease to the stadium was agreed with Rajesh Khosla;[46] £3 million needed to be raised."

Not quite evil underhanded move you seem to think. Had AFCW not bought it chances are there would now be a Kingsmeadow housing estate. And as for comparing it to a ground where Kingstonian had been based for 14 years to BP which has been ours for over a hundred years .......


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Still be giving them half of the gate receipts though wouldn't it. Most AFC fans don't want to be seen giving the guy a single penny and many have also said that they will boycott any replay if needed, for that very reason.




If there were significantly more home fans than away, wouldn't they be taking money away from MK Dons.

Still for me you support your team and don't give a toss about who you are playing.
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sounds like the wimbledon fans are split, but the constant refrain is that the individual does what he thinks is best ,which seems sensible.
if it were me, for what it's worth, i'd take the spanish approach and not go, so depriving my rivals of income.

well said les.
what the apologists for the plastic franchise scum should bear in mind that if this had been allowed to continue gtfc would probably have been a top target; small team in the championship, punching above their weight, low fanbase, unattractive location. an unscrupulous millionaire from a new town like telford or crawley would have been licking their lips in anticipation of forming telford mariners.....
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I do not think any team should be able to take over the name of another club to bypass the pryamid system,

If Wimbledon went bust they should have just started again ( which they did ) and worked themselves back up the leagues, ( which they did )

MK on the other hand should not have been able to steal the identity of another  club and avoid working their way up the system,

It  had been done with the approval of the FA,

BUT

It should never be allowed to happen again.


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MK Dons is my nearest football team and I was listening in to a phone-in on Three Counties yesterday (local Beeb station). Even their fans are split about it, though they were still moaning about how childish Wimbledon fans were being (though if the boot were on the other foot).

Almost all of them agreed that Winkleman should have invested the money in a new club not stolen Wimbledon's identity and that was mainly among their own season ticket holders.
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MK Dons is my nearest football team and I was listening in to a phone-in on Three Counties yesterday (local Beeb station). Even their fans are split about it, though they were still moaning about how childish Wimbledon fans were being (though if the boot were on the other foot).

Almost all of them agreed that Winkleman should have invested the money in a new club not stolen Wimbledon's identity and that was mainly among their own season ticket holders.


When I lived in MK there was always some local gossip about which team might be enticed to move to a brand new stadium in the "new city"

Luton was always the favourite but when the Wimbledon option came along they were dropped and the rest is history (someone else's history though, not MK's own!)
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