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Is it at The Engine Shed mate.
Not their biggest fan, more of an SLF, Skids, Buzzcocks fan myself but may pop along, though I would think it would sell out rather quickly. How many of the original line up are still with them?
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Into The Valley - What a track
They've just released a double CD of all their singles/b sides etc. Got all their stuff on vinyl but playing this CD in the car at the minute. Brings back happy memories of pogoing around The Winter Gardens in the late 70's.
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Anyone rememberThe Stranglers at the Winter Gardens? I was working abroad at the time, but I hear that it was even more 'interactive' than the Sex Pistols when they appeared there. Which I did attend.
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Did sex pistols play at winter gardens? Bet that was good. Ive heard about that stranglers gig, anyone who was there want to talk about it?
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Did sex pistols play at winter gardens? Bet that was good. Ive heard about that stranglers gig, anyone who was there want to talk about it?
They definitely played at the Gardens. I was a bit too young at the time, I didn't start going to watch bands regularly until 1979 but I think The Pistols played there around Christmas time 1977. It could even have been 76.
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Just done a little research - It was 20th December 1976 when The Sex Pistols played The Winter Gardens and I found this below on a Stranglers fans forum.
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23.6.77 Cleethorpes Winter Gardens "The Battle Of Cleethorpes" - Replaced Bracknell Sports Centre Cold fuckin day a lot of shy punks around, well i lie four or five in the late afternoon! the Stranglers in Cleethorpes a few beers in a local pub before the doors open. The crowd is a mixture of punks, hippies and local boys who are not interested in the band, a very nasty ambience that has every one on edge. The gig is a shambles I remember Grip, and maybe Burning up time and Bitching! Before the stage invasion and the violence I was under a table out of the way as bottles and glasses smashed and it got real nasty! Not long after at the Roundhouse no fornicators messed with us! - Carl Greenwold
Sounds like a good night was had by all, but again, just a bit too early for me.
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[quote=618]Just done a little research - It was 20th December 1976 when The Sex Pistols played The Winter Gardens .
I was there, and Pistols was a terrific gig - hastily arranged because first-choice venues had scrapped most of the "Anarchy in the UK" Tour. The first date of that tour was meant to be at my university, but the Bill Grundy swear-fest a few days before put paid to that. Imagine my surprise (!) to return home for my Christmas vac and to discover that they were on at the Gardens -- who, by the way, I bet were clueless about who and what the Pistols were at the time, despite the national press coverage.
I got my ear pierced that morning especially, as you do (Pailthorps), and strode into the Gardens in a black plastic bin liner shirt, only to find I had to prove my local-ness to a bunch of Town hoolies who were anxious to scrap with the bus-load of the Bromley Contingent punk fans who were following the tour. At first they took me for one, but I smooved my way out of that. Sid Vicious was one of the visiting punk fans, as was Jordan, the iconic girl-punk. I spent about 15 minutes talking to Malcolm Maclaren and Bernie Rhodes in the bar overlooking the dance floor. I was more thrilled than they were at our conversation.
After the gig (inc support by The Clash, and Johnny Thunders), I was at a party upstairs (thrown by a lass from Girl's Grammar -- nothing to do with gig -- in fact I got into gig for free because of my invitataion to party - wah-hee)> Johnny Rotten was sprawled across the small staircase, and I started blabbing off about what a shame it was that my university had cancelled the Pistols, and how sorry I was that so many boot boys had shown up at the Gardens.
He just looked up at me, yawned, and said "why don't you f... off?" Brilliant! Entirely historic concert -- right in our own backyard.
Re Stranglers gig -- I have it on good authority that Jean Jacques Burnel offered a bunch of local louts 'out' (most were well-known Town followers) -- and they accepted - storming the stage while Burnel fended 'em off with his Fender. Rock 'n Roll.
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I was there, and Pistols was a terrific gig - hastily arranged because first-choice venues had scrapped most of the "Anarchy in the UK" Tour. The first date of that tour was meant to be at my university, but the Bill Grundy swear-fest a few days before put paid to that. Imagine my surprise (!) to return home for my Christmas vac and to discover that they were on at the Gardens -- who, by the way, I bet were clueless about who and what the Pistols were at the time, despite the national press coverage.
I got my ear pierced that morning especially, as you do (Pailthorps), and strode into the Gardens in a black plastic bin liner shirt, only to find I had to prove my local-ness to a bunch of Town hoolies who were anxious to scrap with the bus-load of the Bromley Contingent punk fans who were following the tour. At first they took me for one, but I smooved my way out of that. Sid Vicious was one of the visiting punk fans, as was Jordan, the iconic girl-punk. I spent about 15 minutes talking to Malcolm Maclaren and Bernie Rhodes in the bar overlooking the dance floor. I was more thrilled than they were at our conversation.
After the gig (inc support by The Clash, and Johnny Thunders), I was at a party upstairs (thrown by a lass from Girl's Grammar -- nothing to do with gig -- in fact I got into gig for free because of my invitataion to party - wah-hee)> Johnny Rotten was sprawled across the small staircase, and I started blabbing off about what a shame it was that my university had cancelled the Pistols, and how sorry I was that so many boot boys had shown up at the Gardens.
He just looked up at me, yawned, and said "why don't you f... off?" Brilliant! Entirely historic concert -- right in our own backyard.
Re Stranglers gig -- I have it on good authority that Jean Jacques Burnel offered a bunch of local louts 'out' (most were well-known Town followers) -- and they accepted - storming the stage while Burnel fended 'em off with his Fender. Rock 'n Roll.
Ha ha, great story Nick.
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I was at both gigs but left the Sex Pistols one after the Clash finished and went back to the Lifeboat.Next day i learned that a lad i worked with launched his lighter at Johnny Rotten and hit him on the head.
The Stranglers gig was mayhem but enjoyable in a young and excited kind of way.
In those days i went to the gardens every week,no matter who was playing.Didn't particularly like punk rock but some of the bands were pretty good.Skids were excellent,but not strictly a punk band really.
Undertones were good too.Feargal Sharkey had a parker on and by the end of the gig it was covered in spit.
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I was at both gigs but left the Sex Pistols one after the Clash finished and went back to the Lifeboat.Next day i learned that a lad i worked with launched his lighter at Johnny Rotten and hit him on the head.
The Stranglers gig was mayhem but enjoyable in a young and excited kind of way.
In those days i went to the gardens every week,no matter who was playing.Didn't particularly like punk rock but some of the bands were pretty good.Skids were excellent,but not strictly a punk band really.
Undertones were good too.Feargal Sharkey had a parker on and by the end of the gig it was covered in spit.
I didn't start going to the Gardens regularly till 79 and they were still getting plenty decent bands there. Stiff Little Fingers (my favourite live band), UK Subs, The Ruts etc all played there at one point or another. I remember getting a bollocking of my mum for dyeing my hair green when I went to a Subs gig. Saw them again only a couple of years ago in GY and Charlie Harper is still going strong. I remember going to The Central Hall in Duncombe St too. Saw the Angelic Upstart, The Cockney Reject and Spizz there.
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Anyone rememberThe Stranglers at the Winter Gardens? I was working abroad at the time, but I hear that it was even more 'interactive' than the Sex Pistols when they appeared there. Which I did attend.
I saw the Stranglers at the Winter Gardens in '77 it must have been One hell of a scrap broke out with people climbing on to the stage to have a go at the group who retaliated with smacking those brave or stupid enough to get up there with their guitars The drum kit got kicked about and the band walked off and refused to come back out until things calmed down but after that they gave a great performance To this day I don't know if it was all stage managed or whether the fight between the band and the audience was actually legit...
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I saw the Stranglers at the Winter Gardens in '77 it must have been
One hell of a scrap broke out with people climbing on to the stage to have a go at the group who retaliated with smacking those brave or stupid enough to get up there with their guitars
The drum kit got kicked about and the band walked off and refused to come back out until things calmed down but after that they gave a great performance
To this day I don't know if it was all stage managed or whether the fight between the band and the audience was actually legit...
See my post No 10 on the previous page for some details re that Stranglers gig.
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See my post No 10 on the previous page for some details re that Stranglers gig.
Just gone back and read it Les... Seems like it wasn't stage managed then? Jean Jacques Burnel offered a bunch of local louts 'out' I remember it was either JJB or Hugh Cornwell saying you either listen to us or we'll go across the road and take you on on the beach! What a night....I bet this year's Jubilee "celebrations" are a bit calmer though
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I was a bit young fot the pistols gig. The first gig i went to was the skids, brilliant night. SLF end of next month in manchester and 999 and G.B.H. at yardbirds to relive my youth
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Just gone back and read it Les...
Seems like it wasn't stage managed then?
Jean Jacques Burnel offered a bunch of local louts 'out'
I remember it was either JJB or Hugh Cornwell saying you either listen to us or we'll go across the road and take you on on the beach!
What a night....I bet this year's Jubilee "celebrations" are a bit calmer though
One of the first on stage was a well known Town "Lad" from that era. I can assure anyone that JJ Burnel didn't use a guitar to fend anyone off. I found out later that he was an adherent of some sort of martial art. He drop kicked said Town "Lad" and I'm afraid he went down like a sack of spuds. Mayhem ensued and it's fair to say the band gave as good as they got for a while. Just another normal Gardens gig night really... A few years later they were booked again but called the gig off claiming "security issues".
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I was a bit young fot the pistols gig. The first gig i went to was the skids, brilliant night. SLF end of next month in manchester and 999 and G.B.H. at yardbirds to relive my youth
The skids were awesome that night. Circus Games is one of my favourite songs of all time...
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Is it at The Engine Shed mate.
Not their biggest fan, more of an SLF, Skids, Buzzcocks fan myself but may pop along, though I would think it would sell out rather quickly. How many of the original line up are still with them?
Been a Stranglers ,SLF fan forever lol.Went to the Winter Gardens to see Stranglers and it was called off as the stage was too small for the keyboard? Then went to see SLF on a cold winters night,my mates bike got a puncture just before the wolds,so it was two up on a ER50 10 mph up some of the hills lol,got there and the gig had been switched date was in NME but i never bought it because the yused to slag off the Stranglers. 3 out of the 4 are still there Jet Black is 72,JJ has just reached 60 frightning.
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One of the first on stage was a well known Town "Lad" from that era. I can assure anyone that JJ Burnel didn't use a guitar to fend anyone off. I found out later that he was an adherent of some sort of martial art. He drop kicked said Town "Lad" and I'm afraid he went down like a sack of spuds. Mayhem ensued and it's fair to say the band gave as good as they got for a while.
Just another normal Gardens gig night really...
A few years later they were booked again but called the gig off claiming "security issues".
JJ is now 6th dan at Shidokan Karate Kickboxing http://www.shidokan.org.uk/Goes to Japan every year to be taught by the master Yoshiji Soeno and JJ has his own dojo in London.
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Been a Stranglers ,SLF fan forever lol.Went to the Winter Gardens to see Stranglers and it was called off as the stage was too small for the keyboard?
I was in the queue for that one. Big let down, never knew exactly why it was called off. Still got the scarf from the street trader outside though
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I was in the queue for that one. Big let down, never knew exactly why it was called off. Still got the scarf from the street trader outside though
I remember it was a foggy night queing for my refund and drunk off the gig had been called off.
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Making love to the Mersey tunnel. With a sausage have you ever been to Liverpool ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZDCLKmXf0
I was there, and Pistols was a terrific gig - hastily arranged because first-choice venues had scrapped most of the "Anarchy in the UK" Tour. The first date of that tour was meant to be at my university, but the Bill Grundy swear-fest a few days before put paid to that. Imagine my surprise (!) to return home for my Christmas vac and to discover that they were on at the Gardens -- who, by the way, I bet were clueless about who and what the Pistols were at the time, despite the national press coverage.
I got my ear pierced that morning especially, as you do (Pailthorps), and strode into the Gardens in a black plastic bin liner shirt, only to find I had to prove my local-ness to a bunch of Town hoolies who were anxious to scrap with the bus-load of the Bromley Contingent punk fans who were following the tour. At first they took me for one, but I smooved my way out of that. Sid Vicious was one of the visiting punk fans, as was Jordan, the iconic girl-punk. I spent about 15 minutes talking to Malcolm Maclaren and Bernie Rhodes in the bar overlooking the dance floor. I was more thrilled than they were at our conversation.
After the gig (inc support by The Clash, and Johnny Thunders), I was at a party upstairs (thrown by a lass from Girl's Grammar -- nothing to do with gig -- in fact I got into gig for free because of my invitataion to party - wah-hee)> Johnny Rotten was sprawled across the small staircase, and I started blabbing off about what a shame it was that my university had cancelled the Pistols, and how sorry I was that so many boot boys had shown up at the Gardens.
He just looked up at me, yawned, and said "why don't you f... off?" Brilliant! Entirely historic concert -- right in our own backyard.
Re Stranglers gig -- I have it on good authority that Jean Jacques Burnel offered a bunch of local louts 'out' (most were well-known Town followers) -- and they accepted - storming the stage while Burnel fended 'em off with his Fender. Rock 'n Roll.
Brilliant story ! I feel truly jealous of you.
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