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They were by far the better team and it showed why the are top 3 and we are bottom 4.
What bugs me is that we get 6/7k per home game, they get 2500 k
We can take 2k away, they take 150
They can't even fill the bench yet we can't field a team to beat them.
What the intercourse is going on at our club?

Quoted from TAGG

They were by far the better team and it showed why the are top 3 and we are bottom 4.
What bugs me is that we get 6/7k per home game, they get 2500 k
We can take 2k away, they take 150
They can't even fill the bench yet we can't field a team to beat them.
What the intercourse is going on at our club?

Is this the point where someone raises the training ground at the end of the M180 as the “silver bullet” answer to our p1ss poor league performances since I don’t know when?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Is this the point where someone raises the training ground at the end of the M180 as the “silver bullet” answer to our p1ss poor league performances since I don’t know when?

I've had a lot to drink so don't understand wot your saying.
Of to bed.
Nite nite

Quoted from heppy88

Went straight to the signal box blues and ale festival after the match.
Plenty of Town fans there to watch an amazing display of talent, passion, timing, energy, skill and showmanship. Goosebumps, hairs on the back of the neck by 3 amateur musicians, giving there all for the crowd. What those who attended BP today witnessed was so far removed from this it’s sad to be honest.

To be fair...I don't pay to see Greeny playing the harmonica lamenting the loss of his pet dog so not sure what your point is .

It wasn't a great day and I was so optimistic pre kick off after a couple of decent performances , went back to spending more time in the bar so missed our goal .

Thought Khouri did well today and looks to be growing as a player .

They were a decent side and will probably be challenging for the play-offs - not as good as Notts County but not a million miles away . A more favourable matchup for us next week in Bromley who will be no were near as much a complete team as them today , but physical and will probably come to defend and make it a physical battle ; hopefully we can impose ourselves better + cut out the mistakes.

Bold move dropping Wright today and thought Eastwood did ok so it will be interesting to see  if Artell sticks with him .

Quoted from TAGG

They were by far the better team and it showed why the are top 3 and we are bottom 4.
What bugs me is that we get 6/7k per home game, they get 2500 k
We can take 2k away, they take 150
They can't even fill the bench yet we can't field a team to beat them.
What the intercourse is going on at our club?

We don't get 6/7 k home gates....today was about 5200 in the home end and the club "issued" a Chunk of them around local schools, organisations in a bid to fill the Osmand....which failed miserably.

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

What another miserable afternoon.

The frustrating thing about days like today is it feels as if we have seen this manager, this team, this performance so many teams over the years. It’s ingrained into the club to serve up mediocrity year after year.

New manager, new players, same script. That’s the frustrating thing about being a Town fan. We take scraps even morsels of positivity but ultimately despite spending money, having no JSF and co, we still get schooled by smaller less appealing, less equipped but more well drilled teams.

In the 20 years since we got relegated into League Two

This has been our record in this division.

04/05 - 18th
05/06 - 4th
06/07 - 15th
07/08 - 16th
08/09 - 22nd
09/10 - 23rd
16/17 - 14th
17/18 - 18th
18/19 - 17th
19/20 - 15th
20/21 - 24th
22/23 - 11th
23/24 - 21st
24/25 - 21st (so far)


We are the epitome of a one step forward, two steps back club. So what do we do ? Is Artell really the man to do it ? Has he ever been.


  

Your historical positions show no manager has been able to do it , only Slade has in league 2 probably with a bigger playing budget than we have now at least in comparison to what others are throwing at it .

Like I have said on many occasions I am very much on the fence with Artell , but he has grown on me somewhat this season and he needs time to breath , implement 'the model' and see where that goes - it's pointless wanting him out , or thinking he's the second coming of Pep after contradicting performances and results imo just let him get on with it , with his own players and make a judgement later in the season .

I do think we will do a bit better this season but it's going to be very much up and down and whether my definition of better will be enough (I think we will finish between 12th & 16th probably) for the fanbase is for everyone else to judge really - I suppose it will maybe depend on if people see seeds of something better coming in the future rather than just scrambling to stay up once more ; in fairness to Artell he did make consistent improvements at Crewe over 3 or 4 years and it was very much linear in terms of upward trajectory - the hope is he can do that here and that wasn't more because of Crewe's excellent youth setup rather than partly Artells good management .

Quoted from moosey_club

We don't get 6/7 k home gates....today was about 5200 in the home end and the club "issued" a Chunk of them around local schools, organisations in a bid to fill the Osmand....which failed miserably.

Tbf we did sell around 7k tickets for most home games the back half of last season which I thought was impressive considering how we were doing .

It did look a bit emptier today , I think gates have dropped off slightly down to last season and the fans need a little success  and consistent performances in truth to start coming back onside in those previously mentioned numbers- I imagine beimg pumped 4,5 6 on your home turf , humiliated and then told we were the better team didn't help in that regard.

It's getting harder to defend Artell. There's no doubt we've made some improvements on last season but ultimately the end result is the same again - conceding far too many goals, losing too many games and generally becoming a chore to watch.

Felt sorry for the defence today as they were playing with three midfield ghosts in front of them. I think Green epitomises where we're at as a club. Consistently one of our better players this season which is based completely on endeavour and basically no skill - the guy gives the ball away for fun.

I get why, as a club, we've committed to a particular playing style but it feels like we've punted for the most difficult to implement at this level. And even if at some point, in what is likely to be the distant future, it clicks and we got promoted, it will be so hard to implement at league one level too, where teams are throwing millions at it.

I'm just sick of watching us slowly get drawn into a relegation scrap and it feels like we're playing with relegation fire once again.

Quoted from Mariner93er

It's getting harder to defend Artell. There's no doubt we've made some improvements on last season but ultimately the end result is the same again - conceding far too many goals, losing too many games and generally becoming a chore to watch.

Felt sorry for the defence today as they were playing with three midfield ghosts in front of them. I think Green epitomises where we're at as a club. Consistently one of our better players this season which is based completely on endeavour and basically no skill - the guy gives the ball away for fun.

I get why, as a club, we've committed to a particular playing style but it feels like we've punted for the most difficult to implement at this level. And even if at some point, in what is likely to be the distant future, it clicks and we got promoted, it will be so hard to implement at league one level too, where teams are throwing millions at it.

I'm just sick of watching us slowly get drawn into a relegation scrap and it feels like we're playing with relegation fire once again.

I do know what you mean , but I think now we have to stick with it - there is no plan B and I suspect nor the players to play any other way than plan A .

In Artell's/the players defence we have probably played 3 out of 6 who will be top 7 or thereabouts so no easy  start but already looking for games against teams I suspect will be in 'our area' (bottom half ) shows how limited my own ambition is in terms of where I think we should be  competing ; probably a mirror of 20 years systemic failure - the fans have deserved better for a long time and we live in hope that eventually sometime soon this ship will turn around .