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ska face
September 14, 2024, 7:21pm

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Glad we went with that experiment in goal, 2 free headers in the 6-yard box plus another carbon copy about 2 mins before the second goal.Really clever stuff - presumably you’ve got to put an unhappy Wright back in next week then?

Rodgers makes me physically ill watching him, appalling. All well and good Artell moaning at the fans saying the intention is to entice the opposition to press - if Rodgers has the ball and 10 yards of space in front of him, it’s not the fans’ fault he decides to turn around and go back to the keeper. And it’s not the fans slowly bobbling his passes into Mceachran on the rare occasion his isn’t marked.

You cannot seriously tell me they stand on that training pitch during the week and when there isn’t an option immediately free, Artell lets them go straight back to the keeper and just stand in the same positions? Doesn’t happen, so why isn’t it rectified after 30 mins of the exact pattern repeating?
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If you can forget the stigma around us playing ’Barrow’, yes ‘Barrow’, and realise that they were actually third in the league before kick off, and only missed out on the playoffs by a mere point last season, then you might actually realise that these guys know what they’re doing.

Different manager I know, but last season they came here and played us off the park, I’m still scratching my head as to how we picked up 3 points that day. They’re well drilled, have a clear, yet fluid game plan. As others have pointed out already, today, they let us play out, didn’t press us high but packed the midfield out and didn’t let us have a minute in there. To counter, Artell strangely pushed Khouri and Green really high and wide, almost standing on our wingers toes in an attempt to stretch Barrow, but this left McEachran alone in a chasm of a midfield. To be fair he did well in there, but he was stifled, and could only play safe, mainly non forward passes.

It was a strange game in a way, I don’t think it was quite as bad as some are making it out to be. Both teams sort of stopped each other playing, barring their two set pieces. We didn’t create much, but neither did they. I get the frustration at the slow build up play but some of the knuckle draggers sat in the upper near me just shouting “FORWARD!” every time the centre halves exchanged passes were only adding to the frustrating tension. That was the point, we couldn’t go forward, like a game of draughts when you’re cornered in by your opponent. They sucker punched us twice, poor marking probably but they were excellent in swinging corners, and ruthless finishes. All in all, that was the difference today. We had 64% of the possession, yet they dwarfed our 9 shots by 16, we also had 7 corners to their 6, but our set piece xG was 0.08 compared to their 0.62. Now there’s some data for you.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

John Tondeur - Wembley Stadium Sunday 15th May 2016
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Preseason we looked awful at set pieces, fast forward 2 months and we are still awful at set pieces!!, and Artell admits on RH that we do 30 mins on a Friday afternoon around set pieces.
I really want to believe in Artell, that he has a plan, that he can improve us in all departments and get us up the league, but I can't lie, I'm starting to lose faith in him.
Today he had no plan B, he doesn't do anything in game to change things, then blames everyone but himself, its a bit tiresome I'm afraid


I picked up on that too. He said we spend half an hour practicing all set pieces , throw ins , free kicks and corners, both attacking and defending. That’s 5 mins for each then. No wonder we’re so crap at them !
He’s really starting to worry me now , I just think the blokes delusional and a total fraud. If you can’t get your team to get basic defending right , then we’re heading nowhere but down.
Already it looks like we are pinning our hopes on 2 teams being worse than us again this season .
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Cannot wait until Tharme and Thompson are fit. Need that stable spine.

Could do with Davies, and Okibwu back for that goal threat. Would also like to see what Luker can do.

More to come from us. Let's not forget Barrow are a team that flirt with the playoffs. They're a good team.
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Glad we went with that experiment in goal, 2 free headers in the 6-yard box plus another carbon copy about 2 mins before the second goal.Really clever stuff - presumably you’ve got to put an unhappy Wright back in next week then?



Do you really think that the keeper could have collected either of those crosses? Absolutely no chance with the second and pretty much none with the first with all the players in front of him. If you want to blame him for being slow off his line which led to the second corner, then fair enough, but let's not make things up here.

Rodgers' passing wasn't great today, but then McJannet, who has been almost faultless with the ball this season, passed the ball straight to the attacker on a few occasions in the first half alone. The defenders do seem to take the easy option and pass back more often than they should (and much more often today). Barrow left their striker high up the pitch all game to stop the pass between the central defenders and we didn't adapt. I do think the midfield were a lot to blame as they just weren't making themselves available.

It also doesn't help when the crowd starts screaming at a player for passing back on the occasions when it is the sensible option!
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September 14, 2024, 7:36pm
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The first 30 minutes are as bad as I’ve seen. Did think we’d get an equaliser though. Barrow will be up there.

We just about get away with playing out from the back against poorer teams. But it seems to me that every opposing manager identifies this as our weak spot (it is) and they just press us into panic mode.

I’m not as despondent as some on here. We’re missing some excellent players and I do think we’ll get better. But there are issues which are obvious and which desperately need sorting.
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Hume was horrendous today. Defensively he is very poor


What did you think about Warren? Only ever passes to Rodgers or the goalkeeper like a robot.  Artell wanted to use Hume to play out and Hume got punished because the Barrow manager knows stuff about tactics. Hume did  ok considering he was being targeted. Definitely not horrendous.
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Green was again the only one who scored more than 5 again. Green is the only one who is determined to get stuck in to win every tackle. Green is the only one who gives his all Why can't the others try to emulate him.
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What did you think about Warren? Only ever passes to Rodgers or the goalkeeper like a robot.  Artell wanted to use Hume to play out and Hume got punished because the Barrow manager knows stuff about tactics. Hume did  ok considering he was being targeted. Definitely not horrendous.


Why do you think they targeted him? Maybe because they knew he’s not very good !
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Can we have Khouri in at left back, please, can't be any worse, slow or bullied than the two currently fighting for the place!

It's the easy route through our defence, pulling others out of place to cover them.

Get Tharne back in, and when is Thompson going to be fit to harden up the midfield and inject some urgency into Town's play again?

2 nervous goalies, neither of which seem to communicate with their defence, or dominate the box.

At least Artell just managed to hold his frustration and temper in his post match interview.

No win bonus for the defence coaches yet again this week - has Shaun Pearson still got his boots handy??
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