Euro 2024

Quoted from grimps

I thought I was going to see two teams with nothing to lose going hammer and tongs last night , it was just as boring as watching England.
It makes me wonder if all this possession based , play patter-cake with the keeper football we're being served up these days is results of too much data and FA coaching courses.

I'd very much doubt that FA coaching courses had an effect on Hungary v Scotland.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I'd very much doubt that FA coaching courses had an effect on Hungary v Scotland.

Id hazard a guess that Clarke got all his FA coaching badges in England

Quoted from grimps

Id hazard a guess that Clarke got all his FA coaching badges in England

He got his Eufa pro licence when he worked at Newcastle not sure he’d have bothered with FA qualifications.

Possession based football has been around for decades probably before it being accredited to Spurs in the early 60s or the Dutch in the 70s.

Quoted from grimps

Id hazard a guess that Clarke got all his FA coaching badges in England

I hadn't thought about that and he spent a lot of time at Chelsea. You are probably right!

I'm still not sure that's a major factor in Scotland's woeful performances - you'll never win a game if you don't get into the final third with any penetration or intent. They were ok defensively (just ok) but looked clueless going forward. Even when they did get into the final third they couldn't get a decent ball to a striker and their strikers looked like they didn't have a clue. I'm not sure I'd be happy if we signed Che Adams - he scores 1 in 4 in the Championship and 1 in 5 for Scotland (ok, he'd probably do well in L2!).

Their final table position says everything about them - bottom of the group, 1 point, 2 losses and 2 goals that weren't scored by Scots. Minus 5 GD. They got what they deserved. You don't get points for your fans or "pashun".

I'm 100% serious that they remind me a lot of us in the first half of last season under Hurst, just couldn't generate any danger in the final third.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I hadn't thought about that and he spent a lot of time at Chelsea. You are probably right!

I'm still not sure that's a major factor in Scotland's woeful performances - you'll never win a game if you don't get into the final third with any penetration or intent. They were ok defensively (just ok) but looked clueless going forward. Even when they did get into the final third they couldn't get a decent ball to a striker and their strikers looked like they didn't have a clue. I'm not sure I'd be happy if we signed Che Adams - he scores 1 in 4 in the Championship and 1 in 5 for Scotland (ok, he'd probably do well in L2!).

Their final table position says everything about them - bottom of the group, 1 point, 2 losses and 2 goals that weren't scored by Scots. Minus 5 GD. They got what they deserved. You don't get points for your fans or "pashun".

I'm 100% serious that they remind me a lot of us in the first half of last season under Hurst, just couldn't generate any danger in the final third.

Yeah I was getting flashbacks from watching GTFC last season , there's no point having 60% possession if 40% of that is with your keeper

England will qualify for the knock-out stage tonight if Albania don’t beat Spain.

Squeaky bum time is unlikely, that being the case.

Scotland have a very small pool in which they can get any quality players. A bit like wales where they have great players every 5-10 years but not enough to get them over the line.

Scotland did well to qualify, and apart from a good result against Switzerland, there was a very apparent gap in terms of quality. Cant say they haven’t done well for getting there and it will no doubt have their supporters believing in the team once again.

As has been noted in the past, if Efete can leave an L2 club because he isn't fancied there, but then move to the top level of the Scottish game, that's as clear an indication as you can get of a lack of quality.

What we haven't had for some time is many top-quality Scottish players becoming important members of the big Premier League clubs as was the case in the 70s, 80s and 90s to a degree.

This time, they've had McGinn (who disappointed, I thought), Robertson (past his best) and Tierney who quickly got injured. Gilmour has some ability, but I'd argue he's not a top-level player yet, though he is young and has time to improve. The rest of them wouldn't get near playing for a top 6 PL team.

Quoted from Maringer

As has been noted in the past, if Efete can leave an L2 club because he isn't fancied there, but then move to the top level of the Scottish game, that's as clear an indication as you can get of a lack of quality.

What we haven't had for some time is many top-quality Scottish players becoming important members of the big Premier League clubs as was the case in the 70s, 80s and 90s to a degree.

This time, they've had McGinn (who disappointed, I thought), Robertson (past his best) and Tierney who quickly got injured. Gilmour has some ability, but I'd argue he's not a top-level player yet, though he is young and has time to improve. The rest of them wouldn't get near playing for a top 6 PL team.

Missed out Mctominay aswell, Ryan Christie enjoyed a good season with Bournemouth aswell. Patterson and Hickey both injured meaning Ralston had to play, Lewis Ferguson who is probably there best player also did his ACL in a pretty much nothing game for Bologna towards the end of the season.