Euro 2024

Quoted from Hagrid

Rubbish!!

He was nowhere near him, he wasnt interfering, the keeper wasnt getting there

No surprise its useless English officials flipping up. Again

It's not rubbish though is it. Whether the keeper was getting there or not is completely irrelevant, it's about whether he hindered the keeper's chances of attempting to which Dumfries clearly did, even if it was only split second hesitation. I can't fathom how a player stood in the centre of the goal a few yards out can not be considered to be interfering with play?

Quoted from Mariner93er

It's not rubbish though is it. Whether the keeper was getting there or not is completely irrelevant, it's about whether he hindered the keeper's chances of attempting to which Dumfries clearly did, even if it was only split second hesitation. I can't fathom how a player stood in the centre of the goal a few yards out can not be considered to be interfering with play?

Not a chance on earth Maignan was ever getting there.

Quoted from Poojah

Not a chance on earth Maignan was ever getting there.

As I said, I don't think it matters whether Maignan was getting there or not.

And it's not only about the keeper. If a player is stood in a position in the box like that, it affects the positioning of the defenders too. Like I said, how can a player stood smack bang in the middle of the box a few yards out not be impacting play? Why would he be there if he wasn't?

Quoted from Mariner93er

As I said, I don't think it matters whether Maignan was getting there or not.

And it's not only about the keeper. If a player is stood in a position in the box like that, it affects the positioning of the defenders too. Like I said, how can a player stood smack bang in the middle of the box a few yards out not be impacting play? Why would he be there if he wasn't?

I just don’t buy it. Defenders aren’t going to drop back (and they haven’t) to attempt to deal with a player who’s in a blatantly offside position as:

a) if he’s interfering with play, he’ll be given offside
b) if he’s not interfering with play, he’s irrelevant

In my opinion he absolutely falls into column “b”. The officials on the night disagree, as do you. Fair enough - there’s a degree of subjectivity to it; I just feel we should try less hard to disallow goals. It ruins the spectacle.

Regarding the VAR incident, apparently it took 6 minutes to make the decision, but the time added on was only 5 minutes despite all the incidents and substitutions etc.so that's another mistake.

Imagine if the on field ref stopped play for 6 minutes to have a think!

If the ball had gone between the keeper and the player, I'd have said fair enough, that could be a goal. The ball actually went on the other side of the player. He was stood between the keeper and the post and it went that side. It doesn't matter if the keeper dived or not. He might have thought not to bother because the player was so close to him. He would have needed to dive head first into a player who was within touching distance to have a chance of getting near it. How can that not be interfering? It just doesn't make sense. It is the fault of Dumfries that the goal was disallowed. He got himself into the wrong position, so no goal.

If a goal had been awarded against England in that situation, I'd have been incredulous, so it's only fair that I have the same view for the French, even though it would be hilarious if they didn't get out of the group!

I think the point some people are making is that the ball was hit so hard, it was past the keeper in a flash!  He was never going to save it whether there was a player stood there or not.  How many times have we seen keepers rooted to the spot because they didn't have a chance to save such a well hit shot!

We are talking about split second thinking. I think they got it right, but I think the referee should have been sent to the screen to decide for himself  on such a subjective decision.

Quoted from Mariner93er

It's not rubbish though is it. Whether the keeper was getting there or not is completely irrelevant, it's about whether he hindered the keeper's chances of attempting to which Dumfries clearly did, even if it was only split second hesitation. I can't fathom how a player stood in the centre of the goal a few yards out can not be considered to be interfering with play?

It is rubbish, Its finding ways to re-referee the game and disallow goals.

Keeper wasnt getting there, Dumfries hasnt made any attempt to block/intefere in any way

perfectly good goal

As Bill Shankly or was it Brian Slough said ,if he was not interfering with play, what was he doing on the pitch ?

Now today's games Georgia  playing really well went a goal down but disallowed by VAR. Then get a lucky pen when ref asked to have another look and awards Georgia a pen who score and go in at the break 1-0.