Lincoln City

Brighton are always held up a responsible club run correctly, but if it wasn’t for their sugar daddy who has pumped in at least 300 million, but as they are classed as loans then they don’t appear on the profit and loss accounts.

Interesting discussion about both clubs re growth etc for the future .An email has dropped into my inbox  this afternoon.This saturday is another  game of  our grassroot initiative/potential new fans ,£15 for an adult and child ,thiis is possible because Orient wont sell out the away end ( stacey west stand) t

About 19/20 junior football teams from the area are coming to watch us ( 500 people came the last time we did it) are grimsby doing anyyhing similar to try and attract new fans  to BP?
Also 2 of the clubs coming are Skegness u9s and u11s is this an area of grimsby fans on the coast?

We are looking to boost our future support  whatever you say.

Quoted from David Frazer

Interesting discussion about both clubs re growth etc for the future .An email has dropped into my inbox  this afternoon.This saturday is another  game of  our grassroot initiative/potential new fans ,£15 for an adult and child ,thiis is possible because Orient wont sell out the away end ( stacey west stand) t

About 19/20 junior football teams from the area are coming to watch us ( 500 people came the last time we did it) are grimsby doing anyyhing similar to try and attract new fans  to BP?
Also 2 of the clubs coming are Skegness u9s and u11s is this an area of grimsby fans on the coast?

We are looking to boost our future support  whatever you say.

Yeah, they did a schools iniative for the Bromley game , think it was 600-700 tickets given away  to  local schools (I'm not sure what the radius was ) . There is a decent catchment area for both clubs really.

I know the club do some really good work with Navigo the mental health charity regarding tickets , bits and pieces and a couple of other one's .

Both clubs are well run community assets , not that different in a lot of what they are trying to do moving forward IMO ; Lincoln are a few steps ahead atm - the main difference on 'the journey ' so far is Lincoln managed to use their FA Cup run  , The Cowleys and finance from that cup run to really kick on whereas we failed to kick on and use that momentum.

I'm not even sure for us now that was such a bad thing as it's helped the guys at the top learn from a little bit of adversity in an industry they are pretty green in , put a process in place and (hopefully) move on to better things in the longer term .

Quoted from David Frazer

Interesting discussion about both clubs re growth etc for the future .An email has dropped into my inbox  this afternoon.This saturday is another  game of  our grassroot initiative/potential new fans ,£15 for an adult and child ,thiis is possible because Orient wont sell out the away end ( stacey west stand) t

About 19/20 junior football teams from the area are coming to watch us ( 500 people came the last time we did it) are grimsby doing anyyhing similar to try and attract new fans  to BP?
Also 2 of the clubs coming are Skegness u9s and u11s is this an area of grimsby fans on the coast?

We are looking to boost our future support  whatever you say.

The fact you’re having to do such initiatives when you’re third in L1 says a lot. I sincerely doubt there would be 500 spare tickets at BP if we were third in L2, let alone L1.

Well your ground doesent hold many does it ? Ours holds @10600

Please see Mappers comments re the Bromley game at yours!

Whats wrong with trying to increase attendances for the future if there is space in the away end!

You lot are beyond believe at times!

Quoted from David Frazer

Well your ground doesent hold many does it ? Ours holds @10600

Please see Mappers comments re the Bromley game at yours!

Whats wrong with trying to increase attendances for the future if there is space in the away end!

You lot are beyond believe at times!

And yet you spend half your life on here.

Quoted from David Frazer

Well your ground doesent hold many does it ? Ours holds @10600

Please see Mappers comments re the Bromley game at yours!

Whats wrong with trying to increase attendances for the future if there is space in the away end!

You lot are beyond believe at times!

Haha fucking hell, calm down Santiago Bernabeu. It's hardly the Maracana is it? There's 14 stadiums bigger than that in your league ffs.

The point is you're currently third in L1. You've finished in the top half of L1 in three of the last four seasons. Do you honestly think you're going to get much higher than this? The sums of money involved in football these days mean even if a team the size of Grimsby or Lincoln were to make it to the Championship, without significant loss making or an unbelievably wealthy/stupid backer then it will only ever be a fleeting thing. So you're probably at the pinnacle of what can realistically be achieved which is to say you're established as a L1 side and mostly managing to make the top half with flirtations with the play offs.

Yet despite playing two local rivals in three of your home games this season, you've failed to fill the home end in any of them and in the last game there were 2000 empty seats in the home stand. This is despite doing these initiatives for local kids football clubs multiple times last season in a season where you finished 7th. If the fans aren't coming regularly now, they ain't gonna come. And I don't buy this "the population will increase so so will the attendances". I lived in London Bridge for 6 years but I didn't start supporting or watching Millwall.

And yes we may have done a ticket initiative against Bromley. But the difference is we're STILL going through the worst period in the club's history, we've been almost entirely shite for two decades  We've only finished in the top half of a table in the FL twice since the turn of the century and finishing 11th in L2 was our most successful season for 17 years. If we'd had anything like the success you've had since 2016 then we wouldn't be needing to give away tickets on the cheap even if our ground was an enormous 10600  

Quoted from mariner91

The fact you’re having to do such initiatives when you’re third in L1 says a lot. I sincerely doubt there would be 500 spare tickets at BP if we were third in L2, let alone L1.

That is quite an arrogant post if I am honest - I am not sure you can guarantee you would be 'bursting the seams' should you have a bit of success? It is not 1987 anymore, I think you would be surprised - You get get into League 1, and get smashed week in, week out and your support could actually drop. Make no mistake it is a tough league and I would be lying if we dominate teams - It can be a tough watch at times - Smaller clubs tend to drop straight back down or struggle.

Been discussed before, but the Match day experience is also a key element, the environment is important now, I am 53, and it was less important when I was younger but now, it is so key that people can enjoy the whole day - Football is just a part of it.

There are also finances at play - Support helps grow a club, but it is not the absolute, otherwise Bradford would be in the Championship at worst;

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

That is quite an arrogant post if I am honest - I am not sure you can guarantee you would be 'bursting the seams' should you have a bit of success? It is not 1987 anymore, I think you would be surprised - You get get into League 1, and get smashed week in, week out and your support could actually drop. Make no mistake it is a tough league and I would be lying if we dominate teams - It can be a tough watch at times - Smaller clubs tend to drop straight back down or struggle.

Been discussed before, but the Match day experience is also a key element, the environment is important now, I am 53, and it was less important when I was younger but now, it is so key that people can enjoy the whole day - Football is just a part of it.

There are also finances at play - Support helps grow a club, but it is not the absolute, otherwise Bradford would be in the Championship at worst;

That's the thing isn't it there are clubs less well resourced who struggle year on year and get pumped most weeks - Cambridge & Shrewsbury immediately come to mind ; they get a big drop in crowds and apathy sets in as there isn't realistically anywhere they can go upwards .

Would we take that now ?
Absolutely

Exeter seem a club that have a set process that has worked in regards keeping them competetive year on year in a league higher than they should be naturally operating in probably .

Lincoln managed to attract the investment at the right time , have a set plan in place and look to have maintained an upward trajectory which seems to have worked well - maybe they will get a 'big one ' in the sale of the Scotish lad in midfield both on an initial fee and a big sell on eventually which could negate some of the need for heavy investment over the next few years .

For us I hope the data led approach bears that sort of fruit eventually , I do think we will reach league 1 at some point in the next few years but it's vital when we do we are 'league 1 ready ' and at this moment in time there is a lot of work to do in truth aswell as the obvious extra finance that would be need to be raised just to compete a level up ; which given this initial investment from others of the 1.5 million is encouraging in that there are others willing to fund the club .

I don't really get the attendance argument from anyone , I mean they are basically irrelevant now , might be a nice top up on the donations from people but clubs like tiny Burton & Wycombe now have billionaires in charge that could lob millions and millions at it , same with MK Franchise and many more beside .

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

That is quite an arrogant post if I am honest - I am not sure you can guarantee you would be 'bursting the seams' should you have a bit of success? It is not 1987 anymore, I think you would be surprised - You get get into League 1, and get smashed week in, week out and your support could actually drop. Make no mistake it is a tough league and I would be lying if we dominate teams - It can be a tough watch at times - Smaller clubs tend to drop straight back down or struggle.

Been discussed before, but the Match day experience is also a key element, the environment is important now, I am 53, and it was less important when I was younger but now, it is so key that people can enjoy the whole day - Football is just a part of it.

There are also finances at play - Support helps grow a club, but it is not the absolute, otherwise Bradford would be in the Championship at worst;

That is quite a patronising post if I’m honest.

What’s so special about the “match day experience” for the average supporter going to Sincil Bank?

For now we’re a good distance away from getting out of L2 but I’m confident we eventually will, what happens then remains to be seen.

For all your bigging up of L1 it’s still the 3rd Division you know.