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There’s a long history of manoeuvres being used to mask mobilisation for invasions. It’s why historically so many wars started in August. I’m not convinced by evidence that has been made public so far, but I wouldn’t trust Putin, he has a track record of invading neighbours. And everything so far is fitting the playbook.
I sometimes dip into RT and other Russian media and you can see how they have stepped up the preparation of the case. I know someone who shares similar views to yours Humbo, and can track what he says over time. I know that whenever he talks about Ukrainian/Georgian fascists it won’t be long before the action starts.
If Ukraine had kept their share of the nukes after the collapse of the SU, there’s no way Putin would be doing this. Russia and the US agreed to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine in the agreement by which Ukraine gave up its nukes. It broke that agreement in 2014. Regardless of whether Crimean people wanted to be Russian, that was an invasion. “Sudetenland” 1938.
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February 20, 2022, 11:18pm |
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There’s a long history of manoeuvres being used to mask mobilisation for invasions. It’s why historically so many wars started in August. I’m not convinced by evidence that has been made public so far, but I wouldn’t trust Putin, he has a track record of invading neighbours. And everything so far is fitting the playbook.
I sometimes dip into RT and other Russian media and you can see how they have stepped up the preparation of the case. I know someone who shares similar views to yours Humbo, and can track what he says over time. I know that whenever he talks about Ukrainian/Georgian fascists it won’t be long before the action starts.
If Ukraine had kept their share of the nukes after the collapse of the SU, there’s no way Putin would be doing this. Russia and the US agreed to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine in the agreement by which Ukraine gave up its nukes. It broke that agreement in 2014. Regardless of whether Crimean people wanted to be Russian, that was an invasion. “Sudetenland” 1938.
Exactly. Sudetenland 1938 = Crimea 2014 If the world ignores Russia (the Nazi’s) invading the rest of Ukraine (Czechoslovakia) then someone else will be next like Poland were in 1939. That someone will be Estonia, Lithuania & Latvia. It’s funny how Humbo is quoting the “Russian evacuation” of Russia backed/funded/armed separatist areas of eastern Ukraine. Coincidentally the same tactic used by Hitler who accused Poland of perpetrating atrocities against German ethnic people ahead of the Nazis invading Poland.
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February 21, 2022, 9:43pm |
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Putin orders troops into Eastern Ukraine regions that he’s just recognised as independent. But yes, this is all the West.
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February 21, 2022, 10:56pm |
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I said it in 2014 to someone with very similar views to Humbo (on vaccines and this): if Putin wanted to keep NATO away from his borders, he's going about it in the wrong way. He's encouraged the West to send more troops to Eastern Europe, and those countries are clinging closer to NATO now. Even famously neutral Finland* and Sweden are considering joining.
* and Finland put in a big order for F35s a while back
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February 21, 2022, 10:57pm |
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Putin has raised the stakes to a much higher level of brinksmanship tonight.
Russian might be ok but he is very dangerous, unpredictable and does not accept international law.
Looking at the world in a simplistic way (historically) The Iron Curtain was built to keep people in, not to keep the West out.
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February 22, 2022, 1:32am |
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So now the Wehrmacht has marched into the Sudetenland, sorry, the Russian army has marched into eastern Ukraine, the next move will be to declare a plebiscite in the occupied territories to decide on whether the people there want to join the Reich. The vote will be 97% in favour. They won’t make it 100% because that would be suspicious.
They’re probably also hoping to provoke the Ukrainians into shelling them. If not then there’ll be a repeat of the Mainila incident.
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GollyGTFC |
February 22, 2022, 5:51am |
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I’m furious about Russia invading Ukraine. And I know who Is to blame!!!! Can somebody tell me how to block Sky News & BBC News on my Sky Q boxes?
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February 22, 2022, 7:37am |
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I’m furious about Russia invading Ukraine. And I know who Is to blame!!!! Can somebody tell me how to block Sky News & BBC News on my Sky Q boxes?
. Yes they always report the truth on wars… Kosovo, Yugoslavia,Iraq 😂 Years later when the truth comes out all is forgotten and programmed muppets just carry on watching and listening to good old Auntie.
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February 22, 2022, 10:02am |
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Yes they always report the truth on wars… Kosovo, Yugoslavia,Libya,Iraq 😂
Years later when the truth comes out all is forgotten and programmed muppets just carry on watching and listening to good old Auntie.
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February 22, 2022, 11:26am |
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Yes they always report the truth on wars… Kosovo, Yugoslavia,Iraq 😂
Years later when the truth comes out all is forgotten and programmed muppets just carry on watching and listening to good old Auntie.
Give an example from the past then of the BBC reporting lies.
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