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smokey111
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You do have wonder what is the cause. Peer pressure, great expectations of them from relative, couldn't cope with the world outside school, any suggestions on this?


IMO, all of the above are factors. Personally, I share the theory that technological advancements have been so rapid in the last 30 years that our brains are literally overloaded. Your average teenager is so over stimulated that they struggle to be present in silence.


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IMO, all of the above are factors. Personally, I share the theory that technological advancements have been so rapid in the last 30 years that our brains are literally overloaded. Your average teenager is so over stimulated that they struggle to be present in silence.


I would agree with you their and probably most of the data they look at is rubbish, just presented to them in a manner that they do not want to miss out to look stupid to their friends.

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I have just read about an accident at Humberston in which a school girl was involved with a motor vehicle and taken to hospital. A parent said   "My son saw this on his way home from school. He said it was awful. He felt sick and was a bit upset when he got home".

To put this into perspective of todays school children and when I was at school. I would have been about 12 yrs old and on a Monday morning the lad from 2 desks behind was missing. Twagging it again everybody thought and then we were not allowed into assembly at the usual time, we were kept back and let in last (last in first out). He had experimented with a gas in a plastic bag over his head and a friend whipped the bag of quick. Regrettably on that occasion the friend wasn't their.

Assembly was silenced and we returned to our classroom. No counselling, no would you like to go home, sit, cry or whatever would happen today. Everything carried on as if nothing had happened.

Today a minor RTA is upsetting! Between the 60's and today something major has happened to the mental welfare of children and what was once a strong mind to carry on, has been reduced to one of barely coping.






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Per the British Journal of Psychiatry, 1 in 7 of young adults have ‘hurt themselves on purpose in an attempt to end their life’ by the age of 17.

Assuming those surveyed were being truthful, they are staggering figures.



I would imagine these figures would look even more alarming if they added to them the amount of children who self harm, not as a way to end their lives but as a coping mechanism to deal with their problems.


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To put this into perspective of todays school children and when I was at school. I would have been about 12 yrs old and on a Monday morning the lad from 2 desks behind was missing. Twagging it again everybody thought and then we were not allowed into assembly at the usual time, we were kept back and let in last (last in first out). He had experimented with a gas in a plastic bag over his head and a friend whipped the bag of quick. Regrettably on that occasion the friend wasn't their.

Assembly was silenced and we returned to our classroom. No counselling, no would you like to go home, sit, cry or whatever would happen today. Everything carried on as if nothing had happened.

I can appreciate that DB. I know someone as well who's dad died when he was in primary school due to illness. Was at school the next day. He also had a problematic family background . The combination of all these factors and never properly dealing with his grief meant it  affects him to this day. He even admits now he should have taken time out to grieve properly and not push it to the back of his mind.


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Per the British Journal of Psychiatry, 1 in 7 of young adults have ‘hurt themselves on purpose in an attempt to end their life’ by the age of 17.

Assuming those surveyed were being truthful, they are staggering figures.



That is amazing. You mean that at least one person in every football team has self harmed in an suicide attempt? I find it very hard to believe such a statistic. They must be extrapolating from somewhere or some respondents were telling porkies.



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That is amazing. You mean that at least one person in every football team has self harmed in an suicide attempt? I find it very hard to believe such a statistic. They must be extrapolating from somewhere or some respondents were telling porkies.



Doesn’t sound right to me either, although  I’d imagine it has nothing to do with participants lying.


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I found this very interesting and thank you for posting it. I wondered about the alcohol abuse and if it has increased over the years due to the off-license law change. Those of a certain age will remember that supermarkets, corner shops etc. could not serve alcohol and it could only be bought through an off-license.

This changed decades ago and now nobody cares, lip service at its best describes the actions of the sale of booze. This is also the same in pubs, clubs, etc.. I fondly remember, being 17 !!!!!, at the time my local landlord telling his best customer "You've had too much, I don't want to lose my license so off you go and come back tomorrow when I'll gladly serve you." In today's drunken nightlife when was the last time, a landlord/manager lost his license for serving a drunk?

The other thing is the amount of money, Millions spent. We don't know how many, where, and when these millions will be spent. Will the cash help 10/ 100/1000, we don't know. London, Birmingham, etc? The cost of expenses in large cities is greater than the sticks, and what of the results, if any?

In my day mam kept on warning me about 'purple hearts' and today it's cannabis. Teenagers are not ignorant and can make their own choices, knowing the problems of drug taking.

At the end of the day, there is one thing that connects these problems in society, MONEY and the wish of the few to become rich on the pain of the many.


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Given the current situation with the club, I wondered how many of us are going through stress, anxiety, tension, and depression problems; beit hopefully on a temporary basis. The extremely high expectation of the 3 months wait for the takeover to be taken away at the last minute, coupled with the near-certainty of relegation is a burden for many to take.

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Given the current situation with the club, I wondered how many of us are going through stress, anxiety, tension, and depression problems; beit hopefully on a temporary basis. The extremely high expectation of the 3 months wait for the takeover to be taken away at the last minute, coupled with the near-certainty of relegation is a burden for many to take.

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I think it’s really important to remember there are differences between being down about something  as opposed to being medically depressed.

It’s also worth noting that being anxious about something is not the same as suffering with anxiety.

I don’t mean to sound patronising as I’m sure you know the difference and you’re only trying to be helpful (as usual I may add), but naysayers always target people as if they’re playing a ‘card’ when they confuse being unhappy with something rather than being genuinely ill with a mental health disorder.


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