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Amond? Really? He only scored 14 goals for Hartlepool. To put that in context Sam Jones scored 7 in 16 for us after he signed.
Slade has been open in that he wants to add some pace & physicality into his striker options. Neither of those are strengths of Amond.
People need to stop living in the past. We had the Amond love in last summer when Hurst obviously wasn't fussed to lose him. And Hurst was proved right.
I don't think Hurst was right in the way you mean it at all, I think Hurst wanted to keep him but he didn't manage it very well and he ended up leaving.
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Nobody knows the terms of that extension offer- it could quite easily have been derisory knowing certain penny pinching tendencies. Just look at how the club (Hurst) decimated the team at the end of a promotion season, some loyalty there!!. Goals win games and proven goal scorers are at a premium so if the chance does come along to re-sign Amond then any petty grudges need to be put aside, after all the same applies to Slade.
Regarding Hearn, he was at his goal scoring best when he had Elding as a partner ,another player that left because of the way the club (Hurst) handled his situation badly.
[/b]Bogle left mid season despite Bignot stating he would stay - some loyalty.[b]
Supporters tend to hold certain players with reverence but as a footballing career is short all players tend to go for the best they can get at the time as they are no different to the rest of us with a family and mortgage to support. Loyalty does little to pay the bills unfortunately.
The offer was to good to refuse for both parties
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I always think that goalscoring stats can be slightly misleading. Amond played pretty much every minute and scored 14 goals which wasn't bad for him, but obviously not good enough for his team. Alessandra (who I seem to remember looked quite useful at BP?) played almost every minute and scored 9 goals. 23 goals in total from your main strike partnership isn't really good enough, especially if the midfield aren't chipping in with enough goals as Hartlepool's relegation showed. Admittedly, their dismal defence was probably more of an issue but I still think if Amond doesn't score, he doesn't really do anything else.
Put it this way. If we signed him, I'd be OK with it but it wouldn't get my pulse racing and I'd be surprised if he was the sort of player that Slade is after.
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I always think that goalscoring stats can be slightly misleading. Amond played pretty much every minute and scored 14 goals which wasn't bad for him, but obviously not good enough for his team. Alessandra (who I seem to remember looked quite useful at BP?) played almost every minute and scored 9 goals. 23 goals in total from your main strike partnership isn't really good enough, especially if the midfield aren't chipping in with enough goals as Hartlepool's relegation showed. Admittedly, their dismal defence was probably more of an issue but I still think if Amond doesn't score, he doesn't really do anything else.
Put it this way. If we signed him, I'd be OK with it but it wouldn't get my pulse racing and I'd be surprised if he was the sort of player that Slade is after.
Alessandra is a winger.
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Ignoring the fact that he used to play for us - would I be pleased if we were after a decent footballer who managed 14 goals for the second worst team in the league? Yes I probably would.
I was gonna tick this but noticed you had 14, so I didn't want to break the symmetry (or whatever the right word is).
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I always think that goalscoring stats can be slightly misleading. Amond played pretty much every minute and scored 14 goals which wasn't bad for him, but obviously not good enough for his team. Alessandra (who I seem to remember looked quite useful at BP?) played almost every minute and scored 9 goals. 23 goals in total from your main strike partnership isn't really good enough, especially if the midfield aren't chipping in with enough goals as Hartlepool's relegation showed. Admittedly, their dismal defence was probably more of an issue but I still think if Amond doesn't score, he doesn't really do anything else.
Put it this way. If we signed him, I'd be OK with it but it wouldn't get my pulse racing and I'd be surprised if he was the sort of player that Slade is after.
eh? So you wouldn't want a goalscorer because his goals were scored when he was surrounded by midfielders who weren't scoring goals and defenders who couldn't defend?
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I don't think Hurst was right in the way you mean it at all, I think Hurst wanted to keep him but he didn't manage it very well and he ended up leaving.
I think Hurst wanted him to stay why else would he go against his golden rule and offer the player an extension mid season? If you recall it appeared that Podge "left it to his agent" always dangerous for a club that as the managers has the relationship with the player and not the agent and does not have as much to play on during any negotiation. Podge is a perfect illustration of a lower league player in modern football in that he will move for what his agent tells him is a better deal even if it's not a better club/side, Why? Because his agent is an agent and their job is to earn their commission and the best way to do that is to get players to hop around.
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eh? So you wouldn't want a goalscorer because his goals were scored when he was surrounded by midfielders who weren't scoring goals and defenders who couldn't defend?
No, it's in combination with my earlier comments. I think he's a flat track bully - only scores his goals against the weaker teams in a division and doesn't do anything at all against the stronger teams. If you have somebody who scores a certain number of goals but without enough support for the rest of the team, the goals don't tell the whole story. When he was playing for us in the Conference, he didn't score against the top teams and his record was pretty much the same with Hartlepool last season. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same when he was with Morecambe. I'd check Soccerbase for this but it seems their database has crapped out over the past couple of days. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a bad player at all and he has good movement and finishing, but I can see why Morecambe didn't play him through the middle. Might be a difference case if he was playing in a team with a dominant midfield, but it tends to be the top teams who have the best midfield and I'd doubt any of the biggest teams in the division would sign him. He'd probably do a good job for the likes of Tranmere in the Conference, assuming they will be one of the strongest teams again next season. Will probably find himself back at a mid-table League Two team.
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No, it's in combination with my earlier comments. I think he's a flat track bully - only scores his goals against the weaker teams in a division and doesn't do anything at all against the stronger teams. If you have somebody who scores a certain number of goals but without enough support for the rest of the team, the goals don't tell the whole story. When he was playing for us in the Conference, he didn't score against the top teams and his record was pretty much the same with Hartlepool last season. .
Nothing to do with the rest of the team creating him chances against the tougher opposition then ? All his fault ? Amond is a goal scorer, an opportunist, and that type of player needs support and assistance. He has good movement in and around the box as he showed against us last season, he virtually did fck all throughout 90 mins but scored 2 goals. He was playing in a p1ss poor team who got relegated, no wonder he couldnt score against any of the top sides as his team were outclassed. When he played for us against the top teams Hurst was more concerned with not losing so again attacking options were limited, wingers behind the ball, centre midfielders on the wing etc. The lad can finish no doubt but he isnt the type of striker that can do it alone. Would that fit with Slades vision ? I am not sure it would TBH.
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