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arryarryarry
April 26, 2024, 5:38pm
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True , but these were the terms and conditions  DA agreed to when he took on the job, it's not like Hurst who was already in situ so it was (I assume ) more difficult to get him to adhere to within the strategy they want to implement . He had full accountability and fell on his sword , on his own terms - It's clear it went really badly wrong last summer with his regular methodology but with more money at his disposal.

DA will have the final say on signings , but if It goes wrong with the signings there will be more group accountability than just the manager - whether that's right or wrong is open to  debate but I'm pretty certain that's how it will be .


I thought he was sacked.
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Hindsight is wonderful and while PH gave us those good times with the promotions and fa cup journey, I would say that 70% of the fan base grew bored of the turgid football thrown up most weeks. We were in essence trying to be less 5hit than 2 other 5hit teams.

While JH uses his knowledge and spreadsheets to find players to fit in with the model of the ‘Grimsby way’ DA can spend more time with the players, more time with the club and more time with the supporters. He gets to break away from the office for some time and get some time away, this no doubt is beneficial to his mental health which in turn gives clear fresh insight into both what happens on and off the pitch/s.

I think what is expected now , is players will now be on the radar from further away and be able to fit into a defined role/s. The data isn’t the be all and end all as it can’t put things like emotion and injury into an end result but, hopefully it’ll lead to a more defined path of what is expected by supporters, management team and owners.

It’ll definitely be interesting to see where we are 12 months from now and see where this philosophy of football takes us to


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I thought he was sacked.


I meant more in terms of the way we set up with recruitment and system which was all down to him, sorry if my terminology was poor.
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“So a head of recruitment is a scout, he will do all the work of a scout but is more advanced in the fact he will oversee recruitment throughout the whole club. They will speak with players, staff and then JS or the new CEO. David Artell still has final say over every single player that signs on the dotted line as like you said, the book stops with him and it's his job on the line but he puts his trust in JH and rightfully so.”

I’ve got no problem with this - if JH is a talented bloke who can spot a player then go and scout him, maybe if he likes him takes DA to watch him etc. Maybe DA says to JH we need a midfield general what have you got in your database. What’s the difference with between that and Arthur Mann or Peter Taylor? Kind of makes me think the whole data thing is being overblown and what’s really happening in a not moneyball but a tweak on good old fashioned scouting.


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We were in essence trying to be less 5hit than 2 other 5hit teams.


Thank god we've moved on from those days hey...

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Surprised no one’s got a picture of the work being done or that the club have not done a post watch video  
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