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Just wondering whether people's views have changed since we were in the National League when we were all in favour of this.
We never expected (mainly a little arrogantly that it would affect us) But are struggling to stay up.
Would it be worth supporting three up - three down even though it could affect us? It could make it easier to get back into the EFL if we go down.
In principle I still would (I think) but do we want to be that turkey voting for Christmas?
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Just wondering whether people's views have changed since we were in the National League when we were all in favour of this.
We never expected (mainly a little arrogantly that it would affect us) But are struggling to stay up.
Would it be worth supporting three up - three down even though it could affect us? It could make it easier to get back into the EFL if we go down.
In principle I still would (I think) but do we want to be that turkey voting for Christmas?
Not relevant cos WE ARE STAYING UP |
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Just wondering whether people's views have changed since we were in the National League when we were all in favour of this.
We never expected (mainly a little arrogantly that it would affect us) But are struggling to stay up.
Would it be worth supporting three up - three down even though it could affect us? It could make it easier to get back into the EFL if we go down.
In principle I still would (I think) but do we want to be that turkey voting for Christmas?
I think we should go back to applications for re-election (now Scunthorpe are down there…) |
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IMHO the number of relegation/promotion places across the football pyramid from the Premiersh*t to the top non-league division should be the same. It seems crazy that you can have 4 teams relegated from Div 1 to Div 2 but only 2 from Div 2 to non- league. Make it three for every level - a Champion , a runner-up and a play-off.
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IMHO the number of relegation/promotion places across the football pyramid from the Premiersh*t to the top non-league division should be the same. It seems crazy that you can have 4 teams relegated from Div 1 to Div 2 but only 2 from Div 2 to non- league. Make it three for every level - a Champion , a runner-up and a play-off.
Problem with that is you would have to have 6 relegation spots in the National League |
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Should definitely be 3 up 3 down. No justification. Having 4 go up in our division is a hangover from the Division 3 North/South days as well, should be the same across the board. 4 down 2 up makes sense in a pyramid. 3 up 3 down across the board. The NL play off system is fairer as well with home advantage and 1 less game for the top 2.
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No. Too many issues need resolving before 3 up/3 down can happen.
The National League governance needs to improve for starters. That’s at a league level and at a club level. Do we want another Macclesfield coming up with an owner who would not pass a F&PP test?
Where does the extra parachute payment money for an additional relegated team each season come from?
Personally I think it should only happen when the NL is incorporated into the EFL as League 3.
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No. Too many issues need resolving before 3 up/3 down can happen.
The National League governance needs to improve for starters. That’s at a league level and at a club level. Do we want another Macclesfield coming up with an owner who would not pass a F&PP test?
Where does the extra parachute payment money for an additional relegated team each season come from?
Personally I think it should only happen when the NL is incorporated into the EFL as League 3.
I certainly think the top level of Non-League should be incorporated into the Football League. Most of the teams at that level are predominantly full- time professional with a high percentage of ex FL teams anyway. This would return the Football League back to the original structure of 92 teams. |
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Just wondering whether people's views have changed since we were in the National League when we were all in favour of this.
We never expected (mainly a little arrogantly that it would affect us) But are struggling to stay up.
Would it be worth supporting three up - three down even though it could affect us? It could make it easier to get back into the EFL if we go down.
In principle I still would (I think) but do we want to be that turkey voting for Christmas?
Relegation promotion equality throughout should be the standard expected, fck knows the FA fly the equality flag on every other aspect of the game so why not this? |
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I can see no justification for four up and down between L1 and L2
Similarly 3 up and down between L2 and National leage should be introduced with conditions and not straight away.
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