An objective view on Dave Artell

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

Ill informed because I'm not negative? I think I'm going to opt out in future and leave this place a pitt of negativity. Guessing people want this place to be twitter. Attack anyone who disagrees. Must defend hive mind.

When we get players with ability and effort, I'll be calling for Clifton to be on the bench, but until we get that luxury, he's one of our best 3 midfield options. There are plenty more than deserve criticism that that.
Hume won us the penalty and had some pretty solid attacks. He's clearly rusty and getting into it, but he's demonstrated some ability.
Green wasn't good in DM in a passing team. Didn't think I had to spell that one out. The last 2 games he's started, we've been dreadful.
SP implied something very different about Hunt. I think I'll trust SP on this one.

Vernam won us the penalty

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ill informed post on here.

You wouldn’t fault Clifton for effort? What about a lack of ability then.
Thompson has looked top notch at times? Yes, he did OK for an hour at Accrington then ran out of gas and was subsequently woeful against Stockport.
Hume a beast? Never in a million years.
How did Green do in what role? We’re his only EFL club and, he’ll end up back in non league either here or somewhere else.
Hunt is a technically excellent footballer who is probably a bit weak but has been training for the last six weeks.

I know we all see the game differently but I have to agree with you re Ancients post which, IMO, is laughable. Thompson was abject against Stockport and rightly substituted at half time which, if rumours are believed, led to an argument and being left out of the squad. All round not good for morale.

I’m also puzzled as to why Arthur did the pre match interview and was then omitted from the squad, very odd!!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

The body language of the subs warming up yesterday was very telling. No intensity, laughing and joking, even Gav who is a top pro (albeit not the best player) didn’t look bothered.

Regarding Alex Hunt. He isn’t injured and was apparently told he could leave. That was a month after he was described as ‘pivotal’ to the way we play after he bossed Crewe. Purely by chance (!!), Conteh then had a fantastic game against Notts and put himself in the shop window and the consequence is that we end up with yesterday’s midfield who wouldn’t look out of place in Conference North.

I seem to recall he told some players in January that their contracts would not be renewed and could leave if they wanted. He did not name names but it's not an ideal situation to have been told you're no good and then expected to play well. It must be demoralising for them knowing that regardless of what they do they've lost their current job. The obvious one is Wilson who chose to leave but the paperwork didn't hit in time. As you have mentioned above the rumour are the same for Hunt, but how many others?

All this is not conducive to making a happy squad full of team spirit. Do or die attitude, but pulling out of tackles as mentioned on other threads.

I've looked at the important data, and....... we're third bottom.

When he arrived Artell said he’d tell people who he didn’t want that they could leave in the Jan window, maybe letting the influential club captain go wasn’t the best move he could have made in terms of squad confidence.

Quoted from JK47

I've looked at the important data, and....... we're third bottom.

That is so, so true! You can read and analyse the data till the cows come home and say we are not as bad as our position suggests but it is all nonsense.

You never hear of any notice being taken of data when you are 10 points clear at the top, if it shows actually you are not playing that well, do you?!

Just done some quick maths. If we were to project Artell’s average PPG across a whole 46 game season, we’d finish on 35 points. That would have seen us finish (comfortably) bottom of League 2 and relegated last year.

Project Artell’s average PPG since he started to make his changes to his team in the January transfer window across a whole season and it’s even worse. We would have finished lower than Scunny in the year they dropped out of the Football League.

When he joined us he described us as a bit ‘meh’, I wonder how he would describe us now?

Quoted from oochiad

When he joined us he described us as a bit ‘meh’, I wonder how he would describe us now?

Danny Rose has told him it's better. He must think we are all stupid if we believe that Danny Rose genuinely said that.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Danny Rose has told him it's better. He must think we are all stupid if we believe that Danny Rose genuinely said that.

Rose looked absolutely fúcking livid towards the end of yesterday’s game. There was a moment, when the crowd started with the “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” chant, that he looked to the lower Findus as if to say “are you for fúcking real, I’m running my árse into the ground”. Those in the stands were very quick to point out “no, not you Danny, every cúnt BUT you”.

At the end of the game, a handful of Town players attempted to half-heartedly clap the Town fans left in the ground, only to be told to where to go. Rose came over alone, offered an apologetic hand and received a clap back for his efforts. Again, those there, myself included, made it absolutely crystal clear that he was not being held accountable for what was going down. He has been a solitary shining light in this bleakest of seasons.

He just looked so, so fúcked off. We only have to watch this circus once or twice a week. He has to be a part of it every moment of his working life.

I feel for the lad, I really do. As much as I’d love to see him in a Town shirt next season, I almost hope for his sake that he isn’t. He doesn’t deserve to be a part of this.