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friskneymariner
February 18, 2024, 11:16am

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Most sane people listening to Artell for 10 minutes realise he’s a total fraud and just talks in corporate phrases.


And that is exactly how he got the job,he told the owners exactly what they wanted to hear,and they fell for it hook line and sinker.There are several people in instilled in the club who are not up to their jobs.


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February 18, 2024, 11:29am
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I presume exile means you haven’t been to recent games. A pair of eyes beats stats and any attempt at semi rational analysis from a distance..


True point i too am an Exile I have to listen to commentary's and Sunday mornings watch highlights on youtube etc, to give  true opinion.
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And that is exactly how he got the job,he told the owners exactly what they wanted to hear,and they fell for it hook line and sinker.There are several people in instilled in the club who are not up to their jobs.


I said it to GranthamMariner when he was appointed...

Artell would have gone through all Stockwood's articles in the Graudian before his interview and would have told Stockwood everything he wanted to hear and more.
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How the bloody hell is he still in charge this morning.
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How the bloody hell is he still in charge this morning.


Data still being examined  
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Data still being examined  


Data has arrived.



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February 18, 2024, 12:08pm
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Is the question, have we a better chance of staying with or without DA?

And how will this influence DA's future if we stay up?
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A 0-0 draw with Accrington, a draw with MK Dons three months ago and drawing against Notts County who are dropping like a stone and have one of the worst defences in the league is not what I would call green shoots. The reality is that the players aren’t good enough but that is compounded by them clearly not playing for Artell. There is no collective ownership, there is no sign of any fight or desire to get back in to these games. Other than Vernam and Rose yesterday it was just a collective shrug from the players, resigned to another pathetic home defeat to a below average side. If you’ve not witnessed how bad we are in the flesh then no offence but I don’t think you quite realise how alarming the body language is from this team. Sticking with Artell is a sure fire way to get relegated.


I've seen enough body language on highlights, and I am concerned. Some of those players I'd like to not see wear a town shirt again, but if it is a professionalism problem, you cannot allow them to get another manager sacked. We don't want to become a Man Utd type problem. A manager has to hold them to account over summer transfer windows when their contracts run out. Ultimately, you've got to pick the 11 working hard enough and hope being out the team is a kick up the bottom some of them need.

I wouldn't fault Clifton for effort. Hume has looked like a bit of a beast at times, but is rusty. Thompson has looked top notch at times but unfortunately was unavailable and we already know how Green did in that role just 2 or 3 games ago. The Fishy darling Hunt is back in contention after returning to training.
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I've seen enough body language on highlights, and I am concerned. Some of those players I'd like to not see wear a town shirt again, but if it is a professionalism problem, you cannot allow them to get another manager sacked. We don't want to become a Man Utd type problem. A manager has to hold them to account over summer transfer windows when their contracts run out. Ultimately, you've got to pick the 11 working hard enough and hope being out the team is a kick up the bottom some of them need.

I wouldn't fault Clifton for effort. Hume has looked like a bit of a beast at times, but is rusty. Thompson has looked top notch at times but unfortunately was unavailable and we already know how Green did in that role just 2 or 3 games ago. The Fishy darling Hunt is back in contention after returning to training.


I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ill informed post on here.

You wouldn’t fault Clifton for effort? What about a lack of ability then.
Thompson has looked top notch at times? Yes, he did OK for an hour at Accrington then ran out of gas and was subsequently woeful against Stockport.
Hume a beast? Never in a million years.
How did Green do in what role? We’re his only EFL club and, he’ll end up back in non league either here or somewhere else.
Hunt is a technically excellent footballer who is probably a bit weak but has been training for the last six weeks.
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I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ill informed post on here.

You wouldn’t fault Clifton for effort? What about a lack of ability then.
Thompson has looked top notch at times? Yes, he did OK for an hour at Accrington then ran out of gas and was subsequently woeful against Stockport.
Hume a beast? Never in a million years.
How did Green do in what role? We’re his only EFL club and, he’ll end up back in non league either here or somewhere else.
Hunt is a technically excellent footballer who is probably a bit weak but has been training for the last six weeks.


Ill informed because I'm not negative? I think I'm going to opt out in future and leave this place a pitt of negativity. Guessing people want this place to be twitter. Attack anyone who disagrees. Must defend hive mind.

When we get players with ability and effort, I'll be calling for Clifton to be on the bench, but until we get that luxury, he's one of our best 3 midfield options. There are plenty more than deserve criticism that that.
Hume won us the penalty and had some pretty solid attacks. He's clearly rusty and getting into it, but he's demonstrated some ability.
Green wasn't good in DM in a passing team. Didn't think I had to spell that one out. The last 2 games he's started, we've been dreadful.
SP implied something very different about Hunt. I think I'll trust SP on this one.
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