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Azimuth
December 28, 2023, 8:37pm
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I said the thread was filled with ‘ugly, angry, unseemly sentiment’. I didn’t say that was exclusively your preserve. You’d expect anything posted by Yoda, or Azimuth etc to be be in that ilk, but your contributions are like the crowning turd on the bilge pile of ‘chip on your shoulder’ peevishness. Seeing so many blithering whoppers in one thread is like looking in on a bunch of bald men fighting over a comb.


And why would you expect anything posted by myself, Yoda to be of the Ilk?
Explain yourself without resorting to your usual name calling,bullying and generalisation.

Chaos, you really are the worst kind of opinionated bully, you have picked me up in the past and used my poor grammer against me in a football thread, accuse people of playing the victim and generally try to belittle individuals who you disagree with.

For reference regarding my Grammer, I am the first to admit it, It is poor, always has been and always will be, I am Dyslexic, that is not playing the victim, its who I am, but that said degrees in Maths and Physics plus a full Chief Engineer cettificate of competancy have made me feel slightly less "thick" and able to make decent progress in life.

You though Chaos, I can only say that you are a condescending bully, a nasty opinionated piece of work who will not use facts in a counter debate, you rely on personal insults, general opinion and what you read in the press without truely knowing anything or finding out about people or their lives, experiences and why they might form an opinion.
Differing to your own.

Of course this is just my view and Im sure you are a lovely non judgmental and open minded chap who is open to debate.
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December 28, 2023, 8:48pm
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Go on then, show me.  And please identify which are 'blithering whoppers'.


I'm still waiting!

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I'm still waiting!



Same, I look forward to the reply.
Can picture Chaos furiously flipping through his Thesourous and dictionary, maybe ChatGBT compiling what he thinks is a smart bottom answer without actually stating any facts but lots of name calling and calling out poor Grammer...or the ILK.
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December 28, 2023, 9:45pm

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One of the key military figures in the Bloody Sunday killings in Derry in 1972 has died. General Sir Robert Cyril Ford was the British Army’s Commander Land Forces, Northern Ireland in 1972. He was in charge of the military operations during a civil rights march in Derry on January 30, 1972. General Ford gave the order for members of the Parachute Regiment to enter the Bogside area to arrest people.

The Saville report largely absolves General Ford for his decision to deploy the Parachute Regiment into the Bogside, stating that Ford had no reason to know that this decision would result in soldiers firing unjustifiably.


If you are going to quote the Saville Report why don't you quote the depositions of the soldiers of the Parachute Regiment who were very concerned about their colleague's who were running a sweepstake on how many they would kill the next day.The only reason soldier F was charged because his colleague's were appalled by his behaviour.


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December 28, 2023, 9:55pm

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Colonel Wilford expressly went against orders,and it was stated by David Cameron that the actions were unjustified and unjustifiable is your usual tactic of selectively referencing things to support your case.


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Same, I look forward to the reply.
Can picture Chaos furiously flipping through his Thesourous and dictionary, maybe ChatGBT compiling what he thinks is a smart bottom answer without actually stating any facts but lots of name calling and calling out poor Grammer...or the ILK.


Stop bullying me.


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December 28, 2023, 10:27pm
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Colonel Wilford expressly went against orders,and it was stated by David Cameron that the actions were unjustified and unjustifiable is your usual tactic of selectively referencing things to support your case.



The Saville enquiry disagreed.  What don’t you understand that the FACT that the senior Officer, General Ford ordered the Paras into the Bogside to arrest rioters?
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It certainly did not,secret memo's reveal that M/G Ford stated that he believed the situation would not be revolved until some of the Young Derry Hooligans were shot .7/8 of those in Bloody Sunday were Young Derry lads M/G Ford was quietly removed in 1973 as is the Armies way ,as was Colonel Wilford who never received another promotion.Bloody Sunday made it significantly harder for all of us who followed and the truth was outed,and even more will be outed in the trial of Soldier F.


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That's not the point he's making BAWB.

The GFA has brought a significant period of peace to that area.  Without the agreement, I'm pretty certain we wouldn't have had that.  

I'm no fan of Blair and there's literally hundreds of things to hang him with, but I don't think the GFA is one of them.


Completely agree - his greatest achievement with help from Clinton. In fact, one of the greatest political achievement in my lifetime. Once Upon a Time in Northern Ireland is a must watch to fully understand what was achieved. Johnson, the lying cvnt put it all at risk, I think Sinn Fein have got their eye firmly on a united Ireland by political means now though.

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Completely agree - his greatest achievement with help from Clinton. In fact, one of the greatest political achievement in my lifetime. Once Upon a Time in Northern Ireland is a must watch to fully understand what was achieved. Johnson, the lying cvnt put it all at risk, I think Sinn Fein have got their eye firmly on a united Ireland by political means now though.



Not forgetting the work of General Castellan who won the trust of all sides.


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