Tony Blair's Wimbledon to Belfast plan

Quoted from 123614

If you had some of your best mates killed out there, and had to endure all the excrement, riots, gun fights, and abuse that I got during my 3 tours of duty there, then I think you might think differently.

I don't likle to belabour the point, but you were out there doing your job. I appreciate it was very difficult for you (and your comrades), and difficult to see the terrorists who were attacking you released at a later date, but that is how peace processes work. There is no alternative, as the Israelis are currently showing. Refusal to consider a two-state solution in Israel/Palestine means that civilians will continue suffer in future decades.

Sacrifices have to be made to have peace, even if unsavoury people end up getting away with their misdeeds.

That's why David Cameron went to apologise to the people of Derry.

Quoted from Maringer

I don't likle to belabour the point, but you were out there doing your job. I appreciate it was very difficult for you (and your comrades), and difficult to see the terrorists who were attacking you released at a later date, but that is how peace processes work. There is no alternative, as the Israelis are currently showing. Refusal to consider a two-state solution in Israel/Palestine means that civilians will continue suffer in future decades.

Sacrifices have to be made to have peace, even if unsavoury people end up getting away with their misdeeds.

You have no idea what you are talking about, you wasn't there, you don't know anything about what we went through,  This entire thread should be closes and moved to non football.

Quoted from 123614

Cannot stand the man. releasing all those murdering scum with the Good Friday Agreement, he should be in jail.

/Black& White Bear mode ON/

What has this got to do with GTFC?

Let's delete this thread, things are miserable  enough surely.

Quoted from friskneymariner

That's why David Cameron went to apologise to the people of Derry.

Over Bloody Sunday?  You do realise that it has been proved that the IRA were the first to fire shots, and are you also aware that when a gunman is shot, sympathisers immediately move in and spirit his weapon away, and say they were innocent, I doubt very much that you do know much about 'The Troubles' at all.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

/Black& White Bear mode ON/

What has this got to do with GTFC?

Let's delete this thread, things are miserable  enough surely.

I wasn't the one who started this thread, so feck off with your Black and White Bear mode.

Quoted from 123614

You have no idea what you are talking about, you wasn't there, you don't know anything about what we went through,  This entire thread should be closes and moved to non football.

I appreciate you and those stationed over there went through hell, however what’s the alternative?  Keep fighting because of the wrong done to you, then keep fighting because of the generations sent afterwards, and so on.  That way the cycle of violence never ends and people keep dying.  Better to come to an accommodation surely, no matter how distasteful people may find it.

Quoted from 123614

I wasn't the one who started this thread, so feck off with your Black and White Bear mode.

No, you feck off with your ramblings, like you tell others to do. Learn the art of debate, don't expect to stretch out every debate until everyone tires of you and you somehow gain 'the win' by getting the last word.
At least this soon to deteriorate group chat has been moved to non footy, so I'm out.

Quoted from 123614

If you had some of your best mates killed out there, and had to endure all the excrement, riots, gun fights, and abuse that I got during my 3 tours of duty there, then I think you might think differently.

That's not the point he's making BAWB.

The GFA has brought a significant period of peace to that area.  Without the agreement, I'm pretty certain we wouldn't have had that.  

I'm no fan of Blair and there's literally hundreds of things to hang him with, but I don't think the GFA is one of them.

Quoted from Brummie Codfather

I appreciate you and those stationed over there went through hell, however what’s the alternative?  Keep fighting because of the wrong done to you, then keep fighting because of the generations sent afterwards, and so on.  That way the cycle of violence never ends and people keep dying.  Better to come to an accommodation surely, no matter how distasteful people may find it.

The IRA are STILL fighting, a Police Officer was shot as recently as March 2023 and in April 2023 there was a petrol bomb attack on police in a police landrover, which they were lucky to escape from.

Also, ask the families of the 1,400 soldiers killed and the 319 policemen killed, not to mention the 1,879 civilians that were also killed by terrorist attacks, if they were in favour of the Good Friday agreement.