Alex Scott

Just watched it back and I thought she was very good 👍

Quoted from Zmariner

You are not quite right here about multiple contracts with multiple companies , it is driven by the individual contracts.
Also Lineker’s 2012 and earlier shenanigans were known at the time as being on the edge and although he was contrite and apologetic he clearly knew what he was doing and , in my opinion, has been a hypocrite here. I would never defend this government but Linekar’s tax dealings were not dissimilar.
A champagne socialist for me.

What’s a ‘champagne socialist’?

Quoted from chaos33

What’s a ‘champagne socialist’?

Dictionary:

"a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle."

Quoted from promotion plaice

Dictionary:

"a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle."

It's an interesting entity. You could build a very solid case to support the theory that there would be no Labour movement without there being wealthy people espousing Socialist ideals. Education of the working classes in the 19th century was pretty dependent on the generosity of benefactors and philanthropists. It quite simply wasnt beneficial for the ruling class to educate the masses. The likes of Wilberforce, Jonas Salt, Cadbury and Lever didn't live in back to back terraced houses but believed in using their fortunes for the benefit of all.
Without the intellectual wing of the early Labour movement there would have been no means of disseminating the principles on which the modern Socialist ethos is based. Without the intervention of "champagne socialists" it isn't stretching a point to say that there would have been no suffragette movement.
One of the people who have had the biggest effect on my political beliefs Tony Benn was a hereditary peer who had to renounce his birthright to be able to serve the people in the best way he could.
There are countless similar examples to show its not about wealth its about what you do with it.

Of course, I am aware of the term and already knew what it meant - it was more about trying to get at the lazy label used in this thread. It would probably require some cogent definition of socialism, which I doubt the person who used the term could share, and also that Gary Linekar would actually identify himself as a ‘socialist’. I’m not aware that he has.

He frequently criticises this appalling government, that’s true - but anyone with eyes and ears could do that every day, several times a day. What he did recently was espouse a ‘humanitarian’ notion, and declare his opposition to an illegal policy, drawing a parallel with language from another historical period. That doesn’t make him a ‘socialist’, champagne or other.

The right wing client media in this country throw these terms about and they become received ideas that people too lazy or stupid to do their own political thinking then adopt as their view and parrot it. As a few have found out - you apply one minute’s worth of scrutiny to it, and it collapses hopelessly.
When that happens, they cry foul, throw a few insults about, then play victim, or try to shut it down. It’s pitiful.

Quoted from Zmariner

You are not quite right here about multiple contracts with multiple companies , it is driven by the individual contracts.
Also Lineker’s 2012 and earlier shenanigans were known at the time as being on the edge and although he was contrite and apologetic he clearly knew what he was doing and , in my opinion, has been a hypocrite here. I would never defend this government but Linekar’s tax dealings were not dissimilar.
A champagne socialist for me.

Well, FTT have ruled in favour of Lineker on the IR35 appeal on the grounds of ‘services having been provided under contracts directly between Mr Lineker and the BBC / BT Sport as he signed each contract as principal in respect of his own services’.

But nobody will probably read this because it’s being moved to non-football; perish the thought of free speech and intellectual enlightenment.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Well, FTT have ruled in favour of Lineker on the IR35 appeal on the grounds of ‘services having been provided under contracts directly between Mr Lineker and the BBC / BT Sport as he signed each contract as principal in respect of his own services’.

But nobody will probably read this because it’s being moved to non-football; perish the thought of free speech and intellectual enlightenment.

sodomist off with your factual information-it will never catch on.
Did you not get the memo that we live in an age in which belief is much more important than, erm…you know…facts!

Quoted from Sandford1981

sodomist off with your factual information-it will never catch on.
Did you not get the memo that we live in an age in which belief is much more important than, erm…you know…facts!

Culture wars.

He's rich and working class, so he is a target.

Don't bother calling out the real villains who are profiteering and dodging their dues in the shadows. Just point at other people to keep the spotlight away.