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Plymouth Argyle manager Steven Schumacher says his side's 5-1 loss at League Two side Grimsby Town in the FA Cup is a 'reality check'.

The Pilgrims went into the game four points clear at the top of League One after an impressive 4-2 win over Devon rivals Exeter City on Monday night.

But they found themselves 4-1 down at half-time as they suffered their joint-heaviest defeat of the season.

"I'm shocked really for the level of performance that we put in," he told BBC Radio Devon.

"It's simply not good enough and the standards that we have been playing at lately we were nowhere near that today.

"We got what we deserved. Grimsby Town were by far the better team, showed more energy than us, showed more passion and more commitment to win the game and more desire, so they deserved to go through to the second round and we deserved nothing from it."

The defeat ended a 16-game unbeaten run in all competitions that stretched back to a 5-1 loss at Charlton Athletic on 16 August.

"It just shows if we don't do the basics right, don't compete, don't try and win second balls, then you're not going to get an awful lot from the games," Schumacher said.

"It might be a bit of a reality check as well to a few because I felt that we were a little bit sloppy in the body language and didn't ever really get a grip of the game.

"It's a real blip and something we're going to have to learn from."

He added: "We won't overreact. It's the first defeat in what, 15 games or something.

"I think the players are experienced enough and honest enough to know that wasn't good enough

It's the morning after the match and time for reality check.

We won 5 - 1
Nobody has moaned about any of the team
The football was a dream come true, from the performance at the Barrow and Hartlepool matches
This could be the start of a new game plan for Town without McAtee & Taylor
Hurst does know what he's doing, although he gets it wrong occasionally
Playing like that, do we need an out and out No9?
The only team in Lincolnshire left in the FA cup at such an early stage

and

Something to look forward to on Monday evening. the draw for the next round.

Buzzing for Monday’s second round cup draw.
Really want a non league team away as they are an interesting day out.

If Alvechurch and Chippenham don't get picked for TV it'll be a farce, what a story for them so far..

Quoted from lukeo

If Alvechurch and Chippenham don't get picked for TV it'll be a farce, what a story for them so far..

Randomly enough, one of our Norwegian customers supports Chippenham Town (no idea why). Quite possible that we might end up meeting him for the first time as he travels to the UK a few times a year to watch them play!

Quoted from chaos33

Listen mate, I know it’s an opinion. Absolutely the place to share it is on this forum. It’s why it’s here. But, if that opinion is palpably stupid, expect to have it challenged.

It's not palpably stupid at all. It's taken Clifton 150 matches or so and about 7 years to get to the high level we're seeing this season. I'd suggest it's more palpably stupid to think he's been utterly brilliant (your words) for the entirety of that time, which seems to be what you're saying. I love Clifton, always have because of the effort he puts in and the attitude he shows but that doesn't mean I don't think he's not had times with us when he's been way off the pace.

Can someone please give our management team a laugh by shouting ‘sort it Hurst’ seconds into our next home game?

Quoted from Son of Cod

It's taken Clifton 150 matches or so and about 7 years to get to the high level we're seeing this season.

It’s called progression….I don’t see your point here. Are we now lambasting him for…getting better…over time?

Also, he only made his full league debut 4.5 years ago. Not about 7.

The point is, he has consistently been picked by our last 3 managers. Played a really good amount of games for his age, and if you actually went back and assessed all his games he far more often has a good or steady game than not, it’s just that when he doesn’t he has the limelight on him more for some reason, I’m guessing because he’s local.

Quoted from DB

It's the morning after the match and time for reality check.

We won 5 - 1
Nobody has moaned about any of the team
The football was a dream come true, from the performance at the Barrow and Hartlepool matches
This could be the start of a new game plan for Town without McAtee & Taylor
Hurst does know what he's doing, although he gets it wrong occasionally
Playing like that, do we need an out and out No9?
The only team in Lincolnshire left in the FA cup at such an early stage

and

Something to look forward to on Monday evening. the draw for the next round.

I totally get your enthusiastic support and I agree we owe Hurst a debt of gratitude what he is doing, and has done for GTFC.

But, it was apparent from his post match interview that the team that played yesterday was nowhere near the team he would have picked had  injuries not intervened.

We were basically forced into playing to our strengths due to all the recognised strikers being unavailable which completely bamboozled Plymouth and indeed the fans.

The big question for Hurst now is having found a way to play fantastic attacking football will he stick with it? I doubt it and one reason is he will think league 2 teams won't give us the amount of room Plymouth did, bizarrely.

Quoted from sam gy

It’s called progression….I don’t see your point here. Are we now lambasting him for…getting better…over time?

Also, he only made his full league debut 4.5 years ago. Not about 7.

The point is, he has consistently been picked by our last 3 managers. Played a really good amount of games for his age, and if you actually went back and assessed all his games he far more often has a good or steady game than not, it’s just that when he doesn’t he has the limelight on him more for some reason, I’m guessing because he’s local.

Agree, also worth noting that in that 4.5 years he’s played different positions in different weeks in what at best could be described as average & poor sides for lots of it.

Oddly enough once we get a decent manager and he starts playing in a well organised side he starts to fulfil his massive potential.

I think I read that someone said he’d been “off the pace” which is an odd comment, personally I think if more developed and experienced players in the last few seasons had met his levels of desire, commitment and application we may have done better.

Yesterday was a great example after the first 5 minutes not one player turned the game but he was one of a few that gave the rest belief.

There a thread on here about clubs watching Glennon but I’d suggest after last season and this one to date a few will have Harry in the radar.