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Humbercod
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You know you can't just decide yourself what the definition of something is? Oxford dictionary entry for fascism: "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. 2 (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice." Or are you smarter than the people who literally define the language we use?


So take the extreme right wing part out and then you can now say this isn’t fascism it’s socialism or communism🙄  
Extreme left and right want the same goal to oppress all no real difference just different ideas to get there.
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So take the extreme right wing part out and then you can now say this isn’t fascism it’s socialism or communism🙄  
Extreme left and right want the same goal to oppress all no real difference just different ideas to get there.


Ah! I see.

Simple really. Just take out the pesky part that negates your argument.
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Ooh let’s have a look-
What are the primary characteristics of Fascism….extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, and a state-run economy. If it sounds like and looks like left wing ideology 😂.

The Fact that silly lefty’s try to own the word so they can use it to verbally attack people close debate and keep them quiet is ironically quite facist.🤪


FFS stop digging. You’ve made a wally of yourself already. And now you compound that by showing you have no understanding of left wing ideology either.

Wikipedia can be your friend…

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Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".
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So take the extreme right wing part out and then you can now say this isn’t fascism it’s socialism or communism🙄  
Extreme left and right want the same goal to oppress all no real difference just different ideas to get there.


Ah okay, so you don’t know what socialism is either. Righto.
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Yeah, some people think that communists want a totalitarian state such as those seen in the Soviet Union, China and do forth. I'm pretty sure that most communists don't look to this as the ideal, but they are still obviously a bit misty-eyed about the reality. Every communist state has ended up as totalitarian which tends to indicate that this is what human nature turns it into.

What about socialism? Look how well the UK did in the post-war years when we socialised healthcare, utilities and some of the major industry. Successful social democracy in action. The right chipped chipped chipped away at it, however, so it wasn't renewed as it was in many countries (where it is still pretty successful) and we're left with the appalling neoliberal dystopia in which we currently exist.

Plenty of examples of social democracy being successful in Europe and elsewhere in the world which makes it all the more risible that the billionaire-owned, right-wing media try to claim any moderate left-wing politician is Stalin in a suit or dress.
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Quoted from GollyGTFC


FFS stop digging. You’ve made a wally of yourself already. And now you compound that by showing you have no understanding of left wing ideology either.

Wikipedia can be your friend…



Wikipedia 😂
You do understand the difference between left wing and extreme/far left FFS😳
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Yeah, some people think that communists want a totalitarian state such as those seen in the Soviet Union, China and do forth. I'm pretty sure that most communists don't look to this as the ideal, but they are still obviously a bit misty-eyed about the reality. Every communist state has ended up as totalitarian which tends to indicate that this is what human nature turns it into.

What about socialism? Look how well the UK did in the post-war years when we socialised healthcare, utilities and some of the major industry. Successful social democracy in action. The right chipped chipped chipped away at it, however, so it wasn't renewed as it was in many countries (where it is still pretty successful) and we're left with the appalling neoliberal dystopia in which we currently exist.

Plenty of examples of social democracy being successful in Europe and elsewhere in the world which makes it all the more risible that the billionaire-owned, right-wing media try to claim any moderate left-wing politician is Stalin in a suit or dress.


There has never been a true communist country not yet anyway. As for socialism once the money has run out the end result is always going to be utter failure, love how this failure is always blamed on the right… chipping at it 😂😂😂
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Wikipedia 😂
You do understand the difference between left wing and extreme/far left FFS😳


I understand lots of things. I understand the difference between somebody who has even a small understanding about the subject they are talking about and somebody who doesn't have the slightest understanding about the what they are talking about.

As a great man once said...

"You can explain it to them.
You can’t understand it for them."

Here's something that might help you - Click Here
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Wikipedia 😂
You do understand the difference between left wing and extreme/far left FFS😳


Says the person who said "Hitler was a Lefty".
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I understand lots of things. I understand the difference between somebody who has even a small understanding about the subject they are talking about and somebody who doesn't have the slightest understanding about the what they are talking about.

As a great man once said...

"You can explain it to them.
You can’t understand it for them."

Here's something that might help you - Click Here


Very good Golly 👏
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