Johnson & Sunak

I see that the ONS released data earlier this week which indicated that the only regions of the UK to have enjoyed any GDP growth since 2019 are London and Northern Ireland. London because it's a vampire that sucks all the investment away from the rest of the country ('levelling up' is a nonsense under this and previous governments) and Northern Ireland because, well, it's still in the single market.

My lord the left wing fascists on here is astounding.  Give it a brek calling people that voted conservative allsorts of names, not the way to get them voting another way is it?.

It’s incredible how some people have no understanding of what fascism is and what socialism is yet throw those words around all the time.

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My lord the left wing fascists on here is astounding.  Give it a brek calling people that voted conservative allsorts of names, not the way to get them voting another way is it?.

You really need a dictionary…

Quoted from monkeyboy

My lord the left wing fascists on here is astounding.  Give it a brek calling people that voted conservative allsorts of names, not the way to get them voting another way is it?.

Amazing misunderstanding of fascism.
Astounding.

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Johnson is finished. If there weren’t 2 by-elections in 16 days they’d finish him off this week. But as they are going to be destroyed in both they’ll sit tight for a couple of weeks and when they’ve lost both Graham Brady will call in a select few cabinet ministers and gently explain that BJ has to go now and then Brady and those cabinet minister will all go and see him and inform him his time is up and threaten a raft of resignations if he doesn’t go “voluntarily”.

Here we go. Within an hour of 2 humiliating by-election defeats Oliver Dowden has quit as Conservative Party Chairman. And it begins. We’ll find out soon whether the few decent and competent members of Johnson’s cabinet will do the right thing now and make their move.

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Amazing misunderstanding of fascism.
Astounding.

Well you’re just a right wing Marxist for saying that!!!!!111!!

And the Tiverton result especially just shows what a progressive alliance could achieve. Too much to hope for Labour and the LibDems to have the intelligence to enter the next election on a similar footing with an agreement to bring in a proper PR electoral system like the grown ups in the rest of the world.

Expect a slash and burn approach from the Tories during the next couple of years. They'll bring in any sort of whacko right-wing nonsense you can imagine to try and make it all but impossible for the next administration to goven. Copying the Republican playbook in the US.

Lower than vermin.

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And the Tiverton result especially just shows what a progressive alliance could achieve. Too much to hope for Labour and the LibDems to have the intelligence to enter the next election on a similar footing with an agreement to bring in a proper PR electoral system like the grown ups in the rest of the world.

Expect a slash and burn approach from the Tories during the next couple of years. They'll bring in any sort of whacko right-wing nonsense you can imagine to try and make it all but impossible for the next administration to goven. Copying the Republican playbook in the US.

Lower than vermin.

Unite passed a resolution last week to campaign for PR in UK elections so I think Labour will move to that position. Whether it's for the 2024 General Election or the one that follows that is another question.

The Tories would argue that it would erode democracy on a local level, but the truth is it would make every vote count and encourage people living in the 50% of seats that are considered "safe" but who don't vote for the party who always wins the seat to vote.

For me the best system would be...

Reduce the constituencies from 650 to 325. Constituencies are decided on the same voting system as Labour leadership election- you rank candidates 1 to X and the candidate in last place is eliminated and votes reassigned in order of preference until somebody has 50% +1 of votes cast.

325 MPs to be decided regionally on a separate party only vote.

Example: I live in the East Midlands region. There are 46 seats in the region. The Tories got 54.8% of the vote in 2019 but won 38 out of the 46 seats (82.6%). Labour got 31.7% of the vote but only won 8 out of the 46 seats (17.4%).

The system I outlined might have meant...
Constituency seats: CON 19 & LAB 4.
PR seats: CON 13, LAB 7, LD 2 & GRN 1.
...so the Tories 54.8% would have still got them 69.9% of MPs. Labour's 31.7% would have got them 23.9% of MPs. Lib Dem's 7.8% would have got them 4.35% of MPS & Green's 2.6% would have got them 2.17% of MPs. Much. much fairer and more representative of the electorate.

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Well you’re just a right wing Marxist for saying that!!!!!111!!

Yes because there definitely is no such thing as a left wing facist🙄