In today’s Grimsby Telegraph

I wonder how many of the 'All that counts is winning' brigade will be complaining if we're nicking scruffy draws away from home after a dismal performance or grinding out tedious 1-0 victories at BP?

I think attempting to improve the matchday experience with better food, drink and facilities is a good idea because, let's face it, win, lose or draw, what we've all really missed over the past 18 months is actually going to games with friends and family. Better food and better drink certainly makes me enjoy social events. Pissing and moaning about the result in the pub afterwards is also part of the experience, but that will have to wait a bit for me!

Given the mess we saw last season and the dross of a squad we were left with, I think automatic promotion is going to be beyond us but I'm certainly hoping for a decent challenge. We need to try and ensure we finish in the play-offs at the very least.

Teams don't tend to come straight back up after relegation out of the League and for good reason. Let's not get our knickers in a twist if it looks like we're going to be another one of these.

You buy a rusty old hulk and inspect it. You know it has problems, but you make a budget to restore it to its former glory following an inspection.

You then strip the paint off and find what seemed to be sold rivet heads are in fact rivet heads held in place by the paint and rust! You then have a budget problem.

I suspect that this scenario is what happened to Jason and Andrew. There has been nearly 20 years of little or no investment, just sufficient to keep the club afloat. You are not going to replace that in the 12 weeks they have been in charge.

All the spending Chesterfield, Stockport, Wrexham, etc. have done will not guarantee them promotion as only 1 team will go up automatically. The others will be in play off's and if they are not promoted they will have a different type of guarantee, DEBT.

We need a group of players to play as a team, and with the addition of 2 strikers, proven or up and coming, we shouldn't be far short. Sutton proved what a TEAM can do without going into massive debt with highly proven costly names.

Are we going straight back up? of course we are. Others have done it and so can we.

UTM

Quoted from KingstonMariner

For fúck’s sake. The whiners never stop do they. Doesn’t matter what logic and argument is used with them, they’re determined to have this dog in a manger attitude. Complete lack of understanding of the reality of the club’s situation, and how it’s being addressed.

“I want us to sign top striker now, and if I don’t get my way I’m going to skthweam and skthweam and skthweam and sthtamp my feet.”

Couldn't have put it better.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Already over budget.

Lol its started  

Who’s said “over budget”?

Some basic comprehension will take you a long way in life.

I really do beg some people to give the owners time and stop making themselves look like ungrateful mammaries, at least for a couple of years.

I’m all for holding people to account (christ knows I do it to Hurst regularly) but even for our fan base it’s absolutely staggering that the new owners are getting stick.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

My comment doesn’t relate to the current owners or any particular club. But if chucking insults around is your thing then so be it!

I'm pretty sure your comments did relate to a specific club otherwise it's all gone a bit abstract 😂

What’s staggering is the fact people are giving the owners stick over something that isn’t their job, signing players. It’s clear hurst has missed out on targets, but none of us know whether that is due to budget constraints or not. And even if it is, that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ve got an uncompetitive budget. If you want to get wound up, surely it would need to be with hurst?

I think some are surprised and worried that if we can't be competive now, in this league, how on earth are we ever going to have a chance.
They're all wrong and stupid of course. Me, I couldn't give a toss.....

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Complete lack of understanding. What patronising crap is that?

Of course we understand the clubs ‘situation’. We’re a rundown football club in the middle of nowhere that has been badly run for a very long time. We have new owners who have got a massive job on their hands. That doesn’t mean we should accept mediocrity on the pitch, does it? After all, football clubs thrive when their team wins football matches not because they sell nice beer.

To be honest  this is spot on

Quoted from MuddyWaters

The most important thing for a football club is to be successful, at your level, on the pitch. Don’t for a minute think that Grimsby Town fans are going to be terribly forgiving if we start losing to teams we’ve never played before. I’m not saying that we have a divine right to league football but another extended stay in non league will do for many fans.

If it does for some of those who can never find anything positive to say then that might not be a bad thing. A small section of support has never been forgiving even when we were playing brilliant football at Championship level. Those who want to see the negatives will always do so but I’m certainly glad I’m not that type of ‘supporter’.