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Sufficient evidence has been shown that Jesus Christ did exist and was as recorded in the New Testament. So you only have to believe.

With regard to your comments about the Old Testament, you have to remember that this was written for the Israelites/Jews and not for us gentiles. Gentiles were only accepted by the Christian faith as being no different to them after the death of Jesus and recorded in 1 Peter. The same Peter who was the first Pope.


I think we started this thread debating this. There simply is no evidence that Jesus lived. If you can point me to one authenticated contemporaneous document that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth (the Gospels not being contemporaneous) I’ll buy you a season ticket.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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Is Jesus alive today and on this site? Some people on the football thread must have seen Louis Boyd playing at Exeter with a rating of 5 and Oldham with a rating of 6.6.

Given that he neither played nor was a sub, at both games then the ratings must have come from a heavenly body.


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Has he signed for town yet? Not an ever present at City, could do a job in the conference I’d imagine...


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Is Jesus alive today and on this site? Some people on the football thread must have seen Louis Boyd playing at Exeter with a rating of 5 and Oldham with a rating of 6.6.

Given that he neither played nor was a sub, at both games then the ratings must have come from a heavenly body.


You've perfectly framed the retort to the question of the gospels authenticity.
Is it more likely that Jesus lived & did the things claimed and was risen after he died or is it more likely that the stories were either a mistake or simply exaggerated over time? Without contemporaneous, independent verification, it's more likely that the rules of the universe weren't suspended for that 1 man, but the stories were either lies, exaggerated or a mistake.
The Bible isn't evidence for the Bible's claims. That's circular logic which isn't evidence.


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You've perfectly framed the retort to the question of the gospels authenticity.
Is it more likely that Jesus lived & did the things claimed and was risen after he died or is it more likely that the stories were either a mistake or simply exaggerated over time? Without contemporaneous, independent verification, it's more likely that the rules of the universe weren't suspended for that 1 man, but the stories were either lies, exaggerated or a mistake.
The Bible isn't evidence for the Bible's claims. That's circular logic which isn't evidence.


My Louis Boyd post tongue in cheek as if you didn't know!

So what's your take on the person who Catholics describe as the first Pope St Peter?


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Why are you doing what every Christian does and deflecting to a different question when you can't answer one....?
Which is it?


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Why are you doing what every Christian does and deflecting to a different question when you can't answer one....?
Which is it?


Neither, just asking your opinion. I don't do deflection.


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Also, taken from Wiki...
"Most scholars today conclude that Saint Peter was not the author of the two epistles that are attributed to him and that they were written by two different authors."
Soooo. There's that.


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Neither, just asking your opinion. I don't do deflection.


There you go again....


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Also, taken from Wiki...
"Most scholars today conclude that Saint Peter was not the author of the two epistles that are attributed to him and that they were written by two different authors."
Soooo. There's that.


Looks like your doing the deflecting!  I did ask you what your opinion was and not what some guys on Wiki thought.


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