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Azimuth
January 3, 2021, 5:53pm
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Quoted from Hagrid
Some of the abuse particularly on twitter very much over the top. Effing useless girl private this and some directly sending messages to him


How utterly disgraceful to subject any individual to that form and level of abuse, it is the worst kind of cruelty and bullying.
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He’s a player that has relied on his pace, that’s now gone and he has very little else in the locker.
A bit like good looking blokes not having to learn how to chat up!
When they’re old and bald , they’re stuffed!
He makes himself available every week for the team
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Green isn't a target man, he's like Podge...only plays well as the second striker in a 2 man attack. Both are capable of scoring goals but not in a 3 man front line...it's just not there game. Podge at Hartlepool was played in a 3 and it failed to produce..only when they played 4-4-2 did he start scoring again.
I'm sure Hurst knows that better than any of us.


Think he scored 15 for Hartlepool that season. Wish we’d had players who failed to produce like that.


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Quoted from Cod Cheeks
He’s a player that has relied on his pace, that’s now gone and he has very little else in the locker.
A bit like good looking blokes not having to learn how to chat up!
When they’re old and bald , they’re stuffed!
He makes himself available every week for the team


Speak for yourself sunshine  
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Speak for yourself sunshine  


Haha! I am!!
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The problem with Green is that he doesn't have an attribute of note.

He's not quick, he isn't strong, he isn't bursting with energy, he doesn't have a great touch, the ball doesn't stick to him, he doesn't bring others into play, he doesn't pre-empt what's happening and he isn't clinical or blessed with natural instinct of some strikers.

I've been critical of Green pretty much since he came here and at periods last season and earlier this season even suggested he might not be pulling his weight in terms of effort.  But I actually think he's done ok in the last month or so.  Don't get me wrong, it's still not enough but he's started to at least try and get his body between the ball and defenders, on a few occasions he's actually held up it really well and brought others into play...but then there's the example like from the first half on Saturday when the ball comes to him in a great position and he hesitates, allows the ball to run across his body and gives the defender time to get a block in.  

Combination of many things.  Confidence is the one that really stands out to me.    Like all strikers, if he got a run of goals I actually think he would be ten times the player.  When he scored earlier in the season, forget who it was against, he looked a different player for 20 minutes after it.  But he doesn't score anywhere near often enough to get that boost.

Ultimately he isn't what we need. Gibson and Jackson coming on in the second half on Saturday proved that even one or two attributes, in their case a bit of pace and enthusiasm, adds a totally different dimension to the attack.  I'm at the point now where I feel for Green because it's just not his fault.  Some players slowly decline, whereas some players just seem to hit a wall of no longer having anything about their game.  I fear this is the case for Green.

Anyone actively seeking him out to send personal abuse wants to seek professional help.
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No sympathy, needs sacking off, along with the rest of the shower of excrement that we currently have.
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Quoted from ex-merseymariner
I reckon 'lay off' is a poor choice of words here, I thought you were suggesting giving him his p45 from the thread title.......


I did too.  I thought how?   I like Matt but he hasn't delivered.  I really hope Hurst can do some magic and get him the service he needs to play a more important role.
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The problem with Green is that he doesn't have an attribute of note.

He's not quick, he isn't strong, he isn't bursting with energy, he doesn't have a great touch, the ball doesn't stick to him, he doesn't bring others into play, he doesn't pre-empt what's happening and he isn't clinical or blessed with natural instinct of some strikers.

I've been critical of Green pretty much since he came here and at periods last season and earlier this season even suggested he might not be pulling his weight in terms of effort.  But I actually think he's done ok in the last month or so.  Don't get me wrong, it's still not enough but he's started to at least try and get his body between the ball and defenders, on a few occasions he's actually held up it really well and brought others into play...but then there's the example like from the first half on Saturday when the ball comes to him in a great position and he hesitates, allows the ball to run across his body and gives the defender time to get a block in.  

Combination of many things.  Confidence is the one that really stands out to me.    Like all strikers, if he got a run of goals I actually think he would be ten times the player.  When he scored earlier in the season, forget who it was against, he looked a different player for 20 minutes after it.  But he doesn't score anywhere near often enough to get that boost.

Ultimately he isn't what we need. Gibson and Jackson coming on in the second half on Saturday proved that even one or two attributes, in their case a bit of pace and enthusiasm, adds a totally different dimension to the attack.  I'm at the point now where I feel for Green because it's just not his fault.  Some players slowly decline, whereas some players just seem to hit a wall of no longer having anything about their game.  I fear this is the case for Green.

Anyone actively seeking him out to send personal abuse wants to seek professional help.


I'm not sure if you are referring to the incident just before they broke away and scored but speaking to someone who was at the game he thought he slipped on the wet grass and lost his footing.
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I'm not sure if you are referring to the incident just before they broke away and scored but speaking to someone who was at the game he thought he slipped on the wet grass and lost his footing.


Not sure I saw it like that, he went completely the wrong way.
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