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Quoted from forza ivano


ffs poojah, how do you always manage to set down the situation in a way that i wanted to, but was still trying to think how to express it?


Nimble fingers. Just ask the wife.


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Ipswin and BJ why the flock are you 2 on here ,all you do is spew bile, you wanted answers and too hear from Olly ,well you got it but it isn't enough for you ,the pair off you are pathetic
i hope he stays at Town and turns us around ,if for no other reason than to stick it the pair off you
,f@4koff and support someone else you pair off masturbaters

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That's a symptom of how badly the club is run. The club's media management has been woeful for years and whoever runs it thinks it makes sense to post quotes openly criticising the board. F@cking hopeless.


Indicates or gives the impression it was a collaboration between all parties.



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That's a symptom of how badly the club is run. The club's media management has been woeful for years and whoever runs it thinks it makes sense to post quotes openly criticising the board. F@cking hopeless.


Maybe whoever posted it is rebelling against the ‘regime’ who might be looking for a new job soon.

Possible source of the leak about May.


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Struck me that he is hedging his bets. Critical of both Fenty & Co and Shutes & Co whilst not aligning himself with either.

Which is fine by me. I just want him to do a good job as manager.
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Incorrect. We’re absolutely nowhere near the salary cap of £1.5m.


He said in today's interview we were above the limit and that is why two have gone to make room in January.

Unless he was referring to something else🤔
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Struck me that he is hedging his bets. Critical of both Fenty & Co and Shutes & Co whilst not aligning himself with either.

Which is fine by me. I just want him to do a good job as manager.


I agree, we know what our current shower of directors have been up to but it would be nice to know what Shutes and co. have done to be classed as playing politics.
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Thanks, Forza. My comment about ownership was questioning the guy the Board turned down amid all the bad publicity for the club. My problem is I do not have a handle on all the stuff that is going on. I'm 73  and looking from a distance and just wanting my club to win a few points. It makes you think why is the club always swimming in a sea of crap?

Holloway is correct when he talks about the importance of a football club to the community. And this is not just any club; it has a proud history and seen success but at the moment all we see is regression. No progress. Fifteen years at least of dire stuff.

You also look at other clubs who somehow have come back from bad times against the odds. Brighton, Doncaster and Hull. The latter were locked out of the University's facilities for not paying the rent but somehow re-emerged with a new stadium. Rotherham have a new stadium. We were told we would get a new stadium in 2001 but look at what has happened.

Down here in the south I have to suffer Eastleigh fans telling me that Grimsby are crap and they are better! That is hard to take.


Actually the first real anouncement for a new ground was in 1995.
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Judging by much of the responses on here, the telegraph and other social media this statement has achieved its purpose. But I fear the purpose of this statement is not, what many are assuming.

First and foremost, there is NO denial here that Holloway knew of Mr May, his 2 plus year relationship with Fenty, the intended investment and of May's criminal past.
Surely, he knew all of these things. Why? He was on the board and privy to these things, the Trust board members admitted they knew, so why not Holloway? As such he was not an innocent party to this saga. I think most can agree that if May's involvement was not exposed the investment WOULD have been accepted and we would probably still in the dark.

When he refers to mistakes being made, he is not referring to his own. It is written in the context of those at the top. He is calling the recent saga a “mistake” on behalf of Fenty and the board (of which he sits). This was NO mistake. This was a calculated train of events, at least 2 years in the making. As stated above, the events would have reached a suitable conclusion for Fenty and the board if it had not been exposed.

Holloway suggests the distractions off field are the reason for the team’s poor start to the season. There is absolutely no admission that HIS actions have caused any of the poor performances to date. He has used the “politics” as an excuse for his and his team’s current failings. Not Covid, not pay cuts, or anything else that occurred in the close season.

He also points some of the blame at Shutes and his associates for simply taking an interest in the club. According to Fenty for a number of years the club was open to offers. Shutes simply decided to make an offer but ultimately could not meet the remit as stated by Fenty.

The remainder of the statement is a rallying call. A rallying call that will no doubt result in a remorseful statement from the club and Fenty himself. Fenty is no stranger to issuing apologetic statements when required, especially when he’s trying to get out of a sticky wicket. Holloway's statement paves the way, by appeasing the fans (mission accomplished), ready for Fenty’s plea of forgiveness.

If this statement was a true rogue statement, where Fenty and co were caught (again) unawares, then there is no way that links to the statement would have been IMMIDIETELY posted on the clubs social media. There would have been no way Fenty would have tolerated this. The statement is nothing more than a carefully orchestrated ploy, by the current incumbents, designed to calm the anti-Fenty sentiment, so Fenty can have his say and again hold his head up high.

My prediction is nothing will materialise from the continuation of talks with Shute’s and co. Why would anything come of them as they have already been going on for a number of years? If they do, I don’t believe Fenty will relinquish control of the club anyway and the status quo will be maintained to the detriment of the club.
I really, really hope I’m wrong on this, but nothing that has happened over Fenty’s reign has left me to think otherwise.
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Judging by much of the responses on here, the telegraph and other social media this statement has achieved its purpose. But I fear the purpose of this statement is not, what many are assuming.

First and foremost, there is NO denial here that Holloway knew of Mr May, his 2 plus year relationship with Fenty, the intended investment and of May's criminal past.
Surely, he knew all of these things. Why? He was on the board and privy to these things, the Trust board members admitted they knew, so why not Holloway? As such he was not an innocent party to this saga. I think most can agree that if May's involvement was not exposed the investment WOULD have been accepted and we would probably still in the dark.

When he refers to mistakes being made, he is not referring to his own. It is written in the context of those at the top. He is calling the recent saga a “mistake” on behalf of Fenty and the board (of which he sits). This was NO mistake. This was a calculated train of events, at least 2 years in the making. As stated above, the events would have reached a suitable conclusion for Fenty and the board if it had not been exposed.

Holloway suggests the distractions off field are the reason for the team’s poor start to the season. There is absolutely no admission that HIS actions have caused any of the poor performances to date. He has used the “politics” as an excuse for his and his team’s current failings. Not Covid, not pay cuts, or anything else that occurred in the close season.

He also points some of the blame at Shutes and his associates for simply taking an interest in the club. According to Fenty for a number of years the club was open to offers. Shutes simply decided to make an offer but ultimately could not meet the remit as stated by Fenty.

The remainder of the statement is a rallying call. A rallying call that will no doubt result in a remorseful statement from the club and Fenty himself. Fenty is no stranger to issuing apologetic statements when required, especially when he’s trying to get out of a sticky wicket. Holloway's statement paves the way, by appeasing the fans (mission accomplished), ready for Fenty’s plea of forgiveness.

If this statement was a true rogue statement, where Fenty and co were caught (again) unawares, then there is no way that links to the statement would have been IMMIDIETELY posted on the clubs social media. There would have been no way Fenty would have tolerated this. The statement is nothing more than a carefully orchestrated ploy, by the current incumbents, designed to calm the anti-Fenty sentiment, so Fenty can have his say and again hold his head up high.

My prediction is nothing will materialise from the continuation of talks with Shute’s and co. Why would anything come of them as they have already been going on for a number of years? If they do, I don’t believe Fenty will relinquish control of the club anyway and the status quo will be maintained to the detriment of the club.
I really, really hope I’m wrong on this, but nothing that has happened over Fenty’s reign has left me to think otherwise.


I would have to agree with this.

I also suspect the current love in with IH may well evaporate if we lose the next three games.

For his sake and ours let's hope we turn our form around.
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