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There's one or two who could learn a bit from you Pete on here not just Boris who strikes me as young and naive but who in all probability isnt a bad sort if you met him in real life.
Hence people in this life need kindness to flourish (which you seem to have) not out and out condemnation mockery or sarcasm.
God bless you.
Thank you Rick you are very kind. |
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Dawn Butler, or Bullshit as I believe her to be known as, is a piece of excrement. She filmed that situation for the purpose of exposing what she perceived to be racist filth harrassing a black woman. She then went on Twitter to state that she had been racially profiled, when nothing could have been further from the truth. Firstly she was not the driver of the car, and the car was stopped not her.
The video showed a polite and respectful white Police Officer going about his work in a perfectly reasonable manner, he was not rude or condescending,when in fact it is clear that the only person who has an issue with manners is Bullshit herself. Dawn Butler has a low opinion of many people, to quote.... “If you don’t hate Brexit… there is something wrong with you”.
In this case she states that there was no other reason for being stopped, other than the colour of her skin. Wrong there was another reason in the fact that the car was stopped by mistake, the registration was entered by mistake, and therefore produced an out of town car. Whether or not its right to stop cars simply because they are not local to the area is another question, but Butler was not stopped becuase of the colour of her skin.
To then choose to exagerate the situation without having the full facts, to state that the the Police are institutionally racist and that she was the latest victim. She does nothing but create further fear and loathing amongst a community ensconced in that narrative already. Would Butler have been so rude had that Police Officer been of the same colour skin as her?
Its clear as day that given the opportunity Butler has played the race card, the victim card, and made a mountain out of a mole hill, for the purpose of attention and opportunism.
PS who Mr Johnson has poked is of no interest to me, could not give a flying intercourse.
By that logic I would imagine Dawn Butler would think I have something wrong with me, which is fine, that’s her opinion and she’s entitled to it, as we are entitled to ours. That said, even if I completely agreed with ur above points (I don’t), I’m still not sure it warrants the label you gave her which I still think is disproportionate to her ‘crime’ Can we not be totally opposed to something or someone’s perspective without reverting to vitriol and name calling? |
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Dawn Butler, or Bullshit as I believe her to be known as, is a piece of excrement. She filmed that situation for the purpose of exposing what she perceived to be racist filth harrassing a black woman. She then went on Twitter to state that she had been racially profiled, when nothing could have been further from the truth. Firstly she was not the driver of the car, and the car was stopped not her.
The video showed a polite and respectful white Police Officer going about his work in a perfectly reasonable manner, he was not rude or condescending,when in fact it is clear that the only person who has an issue with manners is Bullshit herself. Dawn Butler has a low opinion of many people, to quote.... “If you don’t hate Brexit… there is something wrong with you”.
In this case she states that there was no other reason for being stopped, other than the colour of her skin. Wrong there was another reason in the fact that the car was stopped by mistake, the registration was entered by mistake, and therefore produced an out of town car. Whether or not its right to stop cars simply because they are not local to the area is another question, but Butler was not stopped becuase of the colour of her skin.
To then choose to exagerate the situation without having the full facts, to state that the the Police are institutionally racist and that she was the latest victim. She does nothing but create further fear and loathing amongst a community ensconced in that narrative already. Would Butler have been so rude had that Police Officer been of the same colour skin as her?
Its clear as day that given the opportunity Butler has played the race card, the victim card, and made a mountain out of a mole hill, for the purpose of attention and opportunism.
PS who Mr Johnson has poked is of no interest to me, could not give a flying intercourse.
Thank you for the explanation. Very interesting insight to a persons thinking & interpretation of an incident. |
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Prof Starkey? .You having a laugh.Your just showing yourself up by saying that.I try to come from a position of truth and you come back with that.Thought you was better Ska Face than that.
Face reality and look at all sides of the divide and not just things from a idealist left wing agenda(they dont have all the answers either do the right). Your living with your head in the clouds .This is planet earth with brutal injustices .
Forced deprivation of working class community's caused problems.Hence in part some black youth turned to gangsta rap as a way of meaning and community .Theres other issues at play at well .Similar to what happens in the United States.Children with no families often turn to gangs which then induces them to crime as a way of finding love
I suggest you try to being in their shoes as Iam sure you will change your perspective.Likewise Ive known people from similar environments and how tough life can be for them. Eg having no father or mother.Likewise kicked around from pillar to post .Regularly getting beaten up and loosing 2 children via miscarriage as a result of that.Forced prostitution.Turning to gangs is the only community they can find .
You’re conflating “gangsta rap” with being in a criminal gang. Not the same thing. Nor is it an issue that only affects black communities. Look at Scotland, particularly parts of Glasgow, where gangs are part of youth culture for some, and where knife crime, murder & drug dealing are usually higher than in London. Liverpool & Manchester see similar issue but on a smaller scale. Thing is, it’s not treated as a “race” issue elsewhere in the way it is in England. You can blame whatever you like, but the determinant linking it all is invariably high deprivation and limited life chances. This is a decent read - https://theconversation.com/kn.....t-real-choice-113681As is Akala’s book “Natives”. |
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You’re conflating “gangsta rap” with being in a criminal gang. Not the same thing. Nor is it an issue that only affects black communities. Look at Scotland, particularly parts of Glasgow, where gangs are part of youth culture for some, and where knife crime, murder & drug dealing are usually higher than in London. Liverpool & Manchester see similar issue but on a smaller scale. Thing is, it’s not treated as a “race” issue elsewhere in the way it is in England. You can blame whatever you like, but the determinant linking it all is invariably high deprivation and limited life chances. This is a decent read - https://theconversation.com/kn.....t-real-choice-113681As is Akala’s book “Natives”.
I agree with that and thanks for the link. Yes gangsta rap is not just linked to crime or black community's but a reflection of the way history has shaped people unfairly and in turn how people have adapted to that. Tupacs song for one "Changes" is a moving testimony to that. Your right in that high deprivation and limited chances causes a lot of injustices in today's world but this is no doubt shaped by humanity's past.Its been one of greed and power dominance since humanity first evolved as your probably aware. I feel for a lot of kids out there black/white/brown etc.Hence imagine you've grown up with no father or mother.The only family you have is a distant uncle .Around you there is street crime and drugs and violence.Chances are you are going to get sucked into this unless you have a strong mindset or a strong passion for something or there is some strong community focus which can keep you on the straight and narrow eg sports/church etc .This is the reality for many impoverished youngsters in the world today as you have loosely pointed out above. Interestingly though having studied this a fair bit during my studies where there is community and love and little in the way of negative attributes people thrive and there is hardly any crime.Notable examples include the Maldives where there is a limited police force as a result,the Kibbutz in Israel and the Eskimo tribes to name but a few. I think Mother Theresa put it best when she said a lot of the worlds problems are caused by lack of love. |
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Regardless of profiling or whatever, why is nobody questioning the fact the police just seemingly stopped a car for no apparent reason other than they can’t type a registration number in to a computer...and then when it produced a car that was from out of town they stopped it?
I mean what even is that. Are people happy that the police just seemingly stop cars for no real reason?
Just a thought.
I mean Boris lad, you’re really losing it over something that’s not important, although I guess if you didn’t focus on this you’d have to focus on your growing incompetence...how’s tennis at the queens house by the way?
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“As is Akala’s book “Natives”.
I read this recently and thought it was an absolutely brilliant read. A real eye opener.
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I see Victim Butler is playing the victim again....really couldnt make this excrement up.
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I see Victim Butler is playing the victim again....really couldnt make this excrement up.
Try to stop embarrassing yourself, that the moderators have not altered the thread title is very disappointing, I do not want to be seen as part of a racist club as many on here seem to think is something clever, your racist hatred does you no favours |
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Try to stop embarrassing yourself, that the moderators have not altered the thread title is very disappointing, I do not want to be seen as part of a racist club as many on here seem to think is something clever, your racist hatred does you no favours
Quite embarrassing that the mods haven't abided by their own rules. Anyone reading the threads could be offended by such a description. I've enjoyed reading the thread and the information posted apart from BJ's quite ridiculous opening and subsequent remarks. |
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