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barralad
August 13, 2020, 8:12am
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oh for ffs.....

read the news


I've read the news and in no item I've read does it describe an elected members of parliament as "disgusting filth". Perhaps you could illuminate the debate by explaining how Ms Butler "qualifies" for such a description. When you've done that I'd be interested in the direction of your moral compass over a powerful man who deserted his wife whilst she was fighting cancer and who has fathered several children out of wedlock.


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oh for ffs.....

read the news


I have.

I’m just requesting that you elaborate on your original post because I have not read or seen anything that would justify her being labelled ‘disgusting filth’. Sure you may disagree with her perspective but it seems entirely disproportionate and OTT.


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I have been stopped 4 times this year alone, mostly early morning, they let me go each time without a beating as i did nothing wrong.
Not sure they stopped me because of colour as im as white as Casper.

Maybe the lady in question jumps down from her high horse and has to think ok they stopped me, i did nothing wrong and they bode me fairwell. But hey at least they are doing some policing and are being a presence.
Dont they always moan the police dont have a presence then moan when they get stopped for a check?

Cant win. dammed if you don't , racist if you do


You should stop going out early morning with a striped jumper on carrying a bag with swag on it and wearing a mask.

Wearing a mask what am I saying ?  


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Tough one.

Police have a difficult job to do at the best of times.

As for racial profiling I can see both sides.Black people in this country statistically are more likely to go to prison, underachieve in school etc in comparison to other ethnic groups.A lot of this is down to history though.Sunday Times done a piece on it a while back .Hence following the war blacks were invited over from Jamaica to do the rebuilding work following  world war two.Once done they were more or less left to their own devices and this is where problems started to arise .First generation there was little problems but over time many black youth had  no fathers.Many turned to alternate role models eg gangsta rap etc with its images of guns/crime amongst other things .



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What do you think is more to lead to high crime rates - systemic, forced deprivation of working class communities, or listening to a certain type of music?

Answers on a postcard please, prof. Starkey
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What do you think is more to lead to high crime rates - systemic, forced deprivation of working class communities, or listening to a certain type of music?

Answers on a postcard please, prof. Starkey
Prof Starkey? .You having a laugh.Your just showing yourself up by saying that.I try to come from a position of truth and you come back with that.Thought you was better Ska Face than that.

Face reality and look at all  sides of the divide and not just things from a idealist left wing agenda(they dont have all the answers either do the right). Your living  with your  head in the clouds .This is planet earth with brutal injustices .

Forced deprivation of working class community's  caused problems.Hence in part some black youth turned to gangsta rap as a way of meaning and community .Theres other issues at play at well .Similar to what happens in the United States.Children with no families often turn  to gangs which then induces them to crime as a way of finding love

I suggest you try to being in their shoes as Iam sure you will change your perspective.Likewise Ive known people from similar environments and how tough life can be for them. Eg having no father or mother.Likewise kicked around from pillar to post .Regularly getting beaten up and loosing 2 children via miscarriage as a result of that.Forced prostitution.Turning to gangs is the only community they can find .


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I have.

I’m just requesting that you elaborate on your original post because I have not read or seen anything that would justify her being labelled ‘disgusting filth’. Sure you may disagree with her perspective but it seems entirely disproportionate and OTT.


It's a mystery isn't it and Mr Johnson doesn't seem to be able to offer any explanation to why the defamatory quote was used.



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It's a mystery isn't it and Mr Johnson doesn't seem to be able to offer any explanation to why the defamatory quote was used.


Dawn Butler, or Bullshit as I believe her to be known as, is a piece of excrement.  She filmed that situation for the purpose of exposing what she perceived to be racist filth harrassing a black woman. She then went on Twitter to state that she had been racially profiled, when nothing could have been further from the truth. Firstly she was not the driver of the car, and the car was stopped not her.

The video showed a polite and respectful white Police Officer going about his work in a perfectly reasonable manner, he was not rude or condescending,when in fact it is clear that the only person who has an issue with manners is Bullshit herself.  Dawn Butler has a low opinion of many people, to quote.... “If you don’t hate Brexit… there is something wrong with you”.

In this case she states that there was no other reason for being stopped, other than the colour of her skin. Wrong there was another reason in the fact that the car was stopped by mistake, the registration was entered by mistake, and therefore produced an out of town car.  Whether or not its right to stop cars simply because they are not local to the area is another question, but Butler was not stopped becuase of the colour of her skin.

To then choose to exagerate the situation without having the full facts, to state that the the Police are institutionally racist and that she was the latest victim. She does nothing but create further fear and loathing amongst a community ensconced in that narrative already.  Would Butler have been so rude had that Police Officer been of the same colour skin as her?

Its clear as day that given the opportunity Butler has played the race card, the victim card, and made a mountain out of a mole hill, for the purpose of attention and opportunism.

PS who Mr Johnson has poked is of no interest to me, could not give a flying intercourse.
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I am no fan of Dawn Butler but there is no need for all this hate Boris .

Behave yourself man.


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Quoted from grimsby pete
I am no fan of Dawn Butler but there is no need for all this hate Boris .

Behave yourself man.
There's one or two who could learn a bit from you Pete on here not just Boris who strikes me as young and naive but who in all probability isnt a bad sort if you met him in real life.

Hence people in this life need kindness to flourish (which you seem to have) not out and out condemnation mockery or sarcasm.

God bless you.




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