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Sir Matt Tease
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It was in the US where a black man was killed by police. The US has very different racial undertones to the UK.

We are not a racist country. We bend over backwards to welcome allcomers and have some of the most stringent anti racism laws in the world.

If you want to beat yourself up about being "part of the problem " then go ahead but despite being a tiny percentage of the UK population black and ethnic people have good representation in all our major institutions including the police, business and politics and there is no bar in this country for them to achieve whatever they wish.


Maybe Aussie Mariner should read this post, its spot on !

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June 23, 2020, 9:58pm
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. I call racism when 3 innocent white men are knifed to death in an English town in broad daylight.

Me too

The UK is one of the most diverse countries in the world, not that it has done us any good.

??????

The Burnley banner was an understandable reaction to the vile murder of 3 white people just minding their own business .

No it wasn’t. That protest could have been made anywhere. They chose to make it in response to another protest.







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Cheltenham for not winning who I’d looked forward to not playing.

Or Exeter for winning and possibly denying us of one of the better away-days.

N.B. 1) Presuppose attendance is possible.
        2) Football related Twits are still considered ....
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Yes, but even when they do ‘work their way up’ they are still subject to racism. Why do black footballers get stopped in their expensive cars and asked how they afford them when white footballers don’t? Why are there so few blacks in football management when there are so many black players? There are plenty of other examples and I have seen them myself and turned a blind eye which I now know made me part of the problem. I don’t know the extent of racism in this country But I know it exists, and when I see it I will call it out.




"Why do black footballers get stopped in their expensive cars and asked how they afford them when white footballers don’t?"
Do you know that to be true, or do just the black players make noise about it accusing them of being racist when maybe the police are wondering how somebody so young has the money to buy such an expensive car. It doesn't happen often to black players, and I will bet any amount that white players have been stopped too and just not said anything.

"Why are there so few blacks in football management when there are so many black players?"
A huge portion of black players are from foreign countries. After making millions in the game, why would they want to stick around for another 30 years in a country with miserable weather when they could go home and be with their families? Black managers have had some good opportunities and failed miserably, if they'd even been ok, they'd have got subsequent jobs and be on the merry-go-round.

Actually the amount of black players is completely disproportionate to the make up of society. Doesn't your theory of equality and representation mean that we need to remove the number of black players in teams so that there's only 3% black players in this country? No? Didn't think so, because that in itself is racist, giving people an opportunity only because of the colour of their skin and not because of their ability.

I can quote discriminatory things where people have only got jobs because they're of some ethnic minority to make up the numbers rather than based on their ability. There was a case in the police a few years ago where a guy took them to court because he was better than the black person through all stages of the promotion process, but the black person ticked a different box. Positive discrimination is just as wrong...
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I tend to agree that the message Black Lives Matter is a little ambiguous

Maybe they should have just gone with STOP BEING RACIST CNUTS

I went to the rally in Leeds and my main takeaway was that being silent and turning a blind eye to racism is not acceptable and I will call it out whenever and wherever I see it

I don’t give a excrement about the arguments about the motivations of the organisers - racism is racism and I’m reading it in this thread and I’m calling it out

The Burnley banner was racist in its intent and its argument just doesn’t wash - whites are not subject to institutionalised racism In this country but blacks are - and hopefully this movement is the beginning of the end of that



This movement? What movement?

Its faceless for a start, its confrontationaL and its aggressive.  Any idea where the Million or so pounds have gone to? Any idea whats its objectives are? Will you be using any of the million pounds to re-imburse coumcils for the revenue lost on repairing/re-painting statues, town centres, walls?  Any regret about the wanton vandalism.  That's your movement, angry hate filled mob, sad little illegitimates who think the world owes them a living. You have done more in a month to harm race relations in a country that is far better than many in the world, than any other movement in History. Take whats yours not to take, steal what you dont own, destroy with wanton abandon. If you want your movement to succeed, get someone to lead it , and I dont mean disgusting black racists such as the Stormzy's, or David Lammy's of this world.
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This movement? What movement?

Its faceless for a start, its confrontationaL and its aggressive.  Any idea where the Million or so pounds have gone to? Any idea whats its objectives are? Will you be using any of the million pounds to re-imburse coumcils for the revenue lost on repairing/re-painting statues, town centres, walls?  Any regret about the wanton vandalism.  That's your movement, angry hate filled mob, sad little illegitimates who think the world owes them a living. You have done more in a month to harm race relations in a country that is far better than many in the world, than any other movement in History. Take whats yours not to take, steal what you dont own, destroy with wanton abandon. If you want your movement to succeed, get someone to lead it , and I dont mean disgusting black racists such as the Stormzy's, or David Lammy's of this world.



As I said in my first post on this it’s not about the organisation. Racism is racism and that Burnley banner was racist and should be condemned as such - as indeed it has been by the club.
I don’t agree with people and organisations making money out of the climate change industry but it doesn’t make me believe in pollution.
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As I said in my first post on this it’s not about the organisation. Racism is racism and that Burnley banner was racist and should be condemned as such - as indeed it has been by the club.
I don’t agree with people and organisations making money out of the climate change industry but it doesn’t make me believe in pollution.


I asked you specifc questions on this movement....you have answered none. Fight your battles the way you seem fit, but if you are expecting any mass sign up to an organisation that is hiding from the public, dont expect a ground swell of sympathy for your position.

Destroy our history good or bad, you will be caught, you will be jailed.  You want to bring about change, you do it with respect for other people's opinions, and respect for the nation that homes you. Its the same with climate change, you wont take to argument to China because your scared.
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As I said in my first post on this it’s not about the organisation. Racism is racism and that Burnley banner was racist and should be condemned as such - as indeed it has been by the club.
I don’t agree with people and organisations making money out of the climate change industry but it doesn’t make me believe in pollution.


Boris Johnson (the Fishy poster) is spot on. Very few people would disagree black lives matter because all lives matter, but it has quickly morphed into a mob that apparently wants to create anarchy and has set back racial divisions no end.

The Burnley banner was NOT racist. It broke no laws as the police have confirmed and it was a private individual expressing his opinion just like you or I.

How you could think black lives matter is fine and dandy but white lives matter is racist escapes me.
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Boris Johnson (the Fishy poster) is spot on. Very few people would disagree black lives matter because all lives matter, but it has quickly morphed into a mob that apparently wants to create anarchy and has set back racial divisions no end.

The Burnley banner was NOT racist. It broke no laws as the police have confirmed and it was a private individual expressing his opinion just like you or I.

How you could think black lives matter is fine and dandy but white lives matter is racist escapes me.


OK I will say it just one more time.

It’s different because of the context in which it was used.

By displaying the banner just as the players were taking the knee they were clearly challenging the concept of BLM and the players’ protest. If not, why go to the expense and trouble of flying it over the ground at exactly that time?

That makes it racist. It doesn’t have to break laws to be racist in it’s intent. It was deliberately confrontational and inflammatory and making excuses for it is in effect condoning it.
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OK I will say it just one more time.

It’s different because of the context in which it was used.

By displaying the banner just as the players were taking the knee they were clearly challenging the concept of BLM and the players’ protest. If not, why go to the expense and trouble of flying it over the ground at exactly that time?

That makes it racist. It doesn’t have to break laws to be racist in it’s intent. It was deliberately confrontational and inflammatory and making excuses for it is in effect condoning it.



The issue with the taking of the knee and the PL is lip service, its a product viewed by millions. Why wasnt the opportunity to take the knee made to the FL..or have i missed something.  I wasnt aware that taking the knee was a protest, more of a solidarity movement, but please correct me if i wrong.

Do you think if our league was 'live' at present, and fans were in the stadium that this would go ahead? Do you think it would be supported unanimously...its lip service being played out to protect a product to empty stadiums were fans cannot voice opposition.
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