Garth Lane

Quoted from Maringer

Grand Designs tends to follow people with loadsamoney on an ego trip. Not something our club is guilty of in general.

So, they are following that carrot crunching knob head from stroud

Quoted from KingstonMariner

It wasn't that. It was the owner of the land decided he/it (think it was some sort of estate)  no longer wanted to sell the land to be used as a football stadium.

Here's a potted history from 2001 of Town's bid to relocate.

1. In 2001 planning permission at Great Coates was refused.

2. The scheme was brought back and approved subject to signing the Section 106 agreement.

3. The Developer wouldn’t then sign the S106 agreement, as this would have triggered a very large payment without certainty of securing another anchor tenant

As with developments of this type timing is critical, losing B&Q killed the project

4. In 2003 the club's scheme at Great Coates was allocated in the Council's Local plan

5. In 2005 the club resubmitted an updated planning application catalysed by new retail interest

6. After lengthy delays the planning application was determined with approval in Jan 2007
• The Scheme was then subjected to Judicial Review by Henry Boot, who were attempting to deliver a competing retail scheme (Garth Lane i think they were going to develop ironically !!)
• In November 2007 the Planning Permission for Great Coates was finally validated

7. In 2008 the Economy crashed and the scheme was rendered unviable for many reasons

8. In 2010 the club finally turned its back on Great Coates and began looking for other sites that could accommodate the club's needs together with a vital enabling development.

Quoted from moosey_club

Here's a potted history from 2001 of Town's bid to relocate.

1. In 2001 planning permission at Great Coates was refused.

2. The scheme was brought back and approved subject to signing the Section 106 agreement.

3. The Developer wouldn’t then sign the S106 agreement, as this would have triggered a very large payment without certainty of securing another anchor tenant

As with developments of this type timing is critical, losing B&Q killed the project

4. In 2003 the club's scheme at Great Coates was allocated in the Council's Local plan

5. In 2005 the club resubmitted an updated planning application catalysed by new retail interest

6. After lengthy delays the planning application was determined with approval in Jan 2007
• The Scheme was then subjected to Judicial Review by Henry Boot, who were attempting to deliver a competing retail scheme (Garth Lane i think they were going to develop ironically !!)
• In November 2007 the Planning Permission for Great Coates was finally validated

7. In 2008 the Economy crashed and the scheme was rendered unviable for many reasons

8. In 2010 the club finally turned its back on Great Coates and began looking for other sites that could accommodate the club's needs together with a vital enabling development.

Pretty sure I was at a game in 1988 when leaflets were handed out asking fans opinions of a proposed move

Personally, I don't like the idea of us playing at a brand new, shiny, grey stadium with superb toilets on the periphery of town.

Let's be brutally honest here: the town of Grimsby faces stiff economic challenges, day in, day out. It lost its major industry decades ago but what it hasn't lost - and what it'll never lose - is its people.

And these people all have one thing in common: any of them that even remotely enjoy sport (watching or playing) will go down to Blundell Park and support the Mariners.

The Mariners are the one thing that bind us together - not just those who currently live in the town, but those who moved away and live elsewhere.

GTFC is an important part of the town. It's the one thing we all have in common. I think it would be a HUGE mistake to move it to a part of town that is relatively inaccessible.

A football club is a community. This forum is a community. Things like these should be at the heart of everything, not just literally but physically.

Think of all the times you've passed Blundell Park on a non-match day... as a kid, as an adult... still gives me a special feeling. Makes me think about the next match, brings back memories, all that stuff.

Think of the next generation of fans, too young to go now but who may walk past a new community stadium at the heart of the town every day they go to school, or every time they go into town to meet up with mates. The stadium's just there, you can't miss it, you can't ignore it. People using it, shopping in the areas around it, looking forward to the weekend when they can be in it.

Then think of a future where kids of this town don't even know what our new stadium looks like because they've never been there; they never pass it, because it's never on their route, it's never in their sights because it's not really part of the town.

Surgically remove the football from the heart of the town and dump it on the edge at your peril. In my opinion it needs to be where the people are. It has to be impossible to miss. It has to be 'in' Grimsby, in the truest sense. Because this football club 'is' Grimsby, not an after-thought that exists on the periphery.

I don't want a new stadium at Peaks Parkway because it's the only viable option. I want a new stadium at Peaks Parkway because it's the right thing to do, and I'm sorry but I don't honestly believe it's right for the town.

Quoted from RichMariner

Personally, I don't like the idea of us playing at a brand new, shiny, grey stadium with superb toilets on the periphery of town.

Let's be brutally honest here: the town of Grimsby faces stiff economic challenges, day in, day out. It lost its major industry decades ago but what it hasn't lost - and what it'll never lose - is its people.

And these people all have one thing in common: any of them that even remotely enjoy sport (watching or playing) will go down to Blundell Park and support the Mariners.

The Mariners are the one thing that bind us together - not just those who currently live in the town, but those who moved away and live elsewhere.

GTFC is an important part of the town. It's the one thing we all have in common. I think it would be a HUGE mistake to move it to a part of town that is relatively inaccessible.

A football club is a community. This forum is a community. Things like these should be at the heart of everything, not just literally but physically.

Think of all the times you've passed Blundell Park on a non-match day... as a kid, as an adult... still gives me a special feeling. Makes me think about the next match, brings back memories, all that stuff.

Think of the next generation of fans, too young to go now but who may walk past a new community stadium at the heart of the town every day they go to school, or every time they go into town to meet up with mates. The stadium's just there, you can't miss it, you can't ignore it. People using it, shopping in the areas around it, looking forward to the weekend when they can be in it.

Then think of a future where kids of this town don't even know what our new stadium looks like because they've never been there; they never pass it, because it's never on their route, it's never in their sights because it's not really part of the town.

Surgically remove the football from the heart of the town and dump it on the edge at your peril. In my opinion it needs to be where the people are. It has to be impossible to miss. It has to be 'in' Grimsby, in the truest sense. Because this football club 'is' Grimsby, not an after-thought that exists on the periphery.

I don't want a new stadium at Peaks Parkway because it's the only viable option. I want a new stadium at Peaks Parkway because it's the right thing to do, and I'm sorry but I don't honestly believe it's right for the town.

And this right here is why we'll never have a new football stadium. Too many fans who choose feelings over thought,sentiment over logic and being local over progress. We need to move from Blundell Park because it's an outdated old ground that will hinder any sort of progress for the future, sure it's fine now while we are non league tinpot trying to consolidate our new position as a league club but what happens when we progress up the leagues like in the distant past?

It doesn't matter where it's located, if we have a stadium with room to expand it makes a statement that the club is the real deal, everyone will know where the ground is, kids will be asking their dad to drive past it so they can have a look and then take them to the game. It gives off a good image for the town when people enter it and see that stadium and it'll become a source of pride for the town and a message that the area is open for business and redevelopment. A football club making progress gives off a good image. It'll be accessible on public transport with room for parking and that's important too for ease of getting to matches.

I feel like this is just another thinly veiled "Garth Lane is a better choice because it's near the Dock Tower and the Heritage Centre and because Freeman Street needs to become like the good old days when it was local people and not all foreigners."

Honestly people like Rich probably loved us being Non League because they could go to tiny nowhere places with what can barely be called a football ground because that's "real football". People like Rich would love us to stay as low as possible and not be near those evil terrible top leagues that are all about making money.

J.F. to change to Labour then something might be done

Quoted from Kris2

And this right here is why we'll never have a new football stadium. Too many fans who choose feelings over thought,sentiment over logic and being local over progress. We need to move from Blundell Park because it's an outdated old ground that will hinder any sort of progress for the future, sure it's fine now while we are non league tinpot trying to consolidate our new position as a league club but what happens when we progress up the leagues like in the distant past?

It doesn't matter where it's located, if we have a stadium with room to expand it makes a statement that the club is the real deal, everyone will know where the ground is, kids will be asking their dad to drive past it so they can have a look and then take them to the game. It gives off a good image for the town when people enter it and see that stadium and it'll become a source of pride for the town and a message that the area is open for business and redevelopment. A football club making progress gives off a good image. It'll be accessible on public transport with room for parking and that's important too for ease of getting to matches.

I feel like this is just another thinly veiled "Garth Lane is a better choice because it's near the Dock Tower and the Heritage Centre and because Freeman Street needs to become like the good old days when it was local people and not all foreigners."

Honestly people like Rich probably loved us being Non League because they could go to tiny nowhere places with what can barely be called a football ground because that's "real football". People like Rich would love us to stay as low as possible and not be near those evil terrible top leagues that are all about making money.

Maybe some fans, myself included, accept we need to move but also as living locally want certain other things from any such development...
i would like open fields to remain open fields, green spaces to remain green spaces i would absolutley prefer a brownfield site over any other if possible, rather than urban sprawl spreading and filling in open areas between the suburbs.
The East Marsh/ Freeman St area has been slowly dying since the 70's and is now in need of major redevelopment...seems perfect to me for all but two things, starting again now would mean timescales would equate to even more years waiting, various landlords and landowners would need to be bought out increasing overall costs.
Peaks Parkway and the approaches to that area of Town around New Waltham/Waltham/South Cleethorpes/Humberston are already swamped with permitted sites for housing developments not counting any further homes as part of the ground enabling. Traffic will therefore be increasing along that corridor and if anyone uses that road now they know the bottle necks that already exist without further housing and then matchday traffic.

We all want a new home, we all will have our our own slants on what and why we think some are better than others, some of those views maybe borne of selfishness (NIMBY's), some out of reasoned argument and some out of pie in the sky thinking but all entitled to a view which unfortunately actually matters very little,  as currently only The Board/Council/Developers have the choice to make and that is clearly PP currently.  Not my preference but if thats where it does go then i shall be there.

Quoted from Kris2

And this right here is why we'll never have a new football stadium. Too many fans who choose feelings over thought,sentiment over logic and being local over progress. We need to move from Blundell Park because it's an outdated old ground that will hinder any sort of progress for the future, sure it's fine now while we are non league tinpot trying to consolidate our new position as a league club but what happens when we progress up the leagues like in the distant past?

It doesn't matter where it's located, if we have a stadium with room to expand it makes a statement that the club is the real deal, everyone will know where the ground is, kids will be asking their dad to drive past it so they can have a look and then take them to the game. It gives off a good image for the town when people enter it and see that stadium and it'll become a source of pride for the town and a message that the area is open for business and redevelopment. A football club making progress gives off a good image. It'll be accessible on public transport with room for parking and that's important too for ease of getting to matches.

I feel like this is just another thinly veiled "Garth Lane is a better choice because it's near the Dock Tower and the Heritage Centre and because Freeman Street needs to become like the good old days when it was local people and not all foreigners."

Honestly people like Rich probably loved us being Non League because they could go to tiny nowhere places with what can barely be called a football ground because that's "real football". People like Rich would love us to stay as low as possible and not be near those evil terrible top leagues that are all about making money.

It's not the ground that hinders progress.

Quoted from golfer

J.F. to change to Labour then something might be done

Haha! All joking aside.....

Quoted from RichMariner

Personally, I don't like the idea of us playing at a brand new, shiny, grey stadium with superb toilets on the periphery of town.

Let's be brutally honest here: the town of Grimsby faces stiff economic challenges, day in, day out. It lost its major industry decades ago but what it hasn't lost - and what it'll never lose - is its people.

And these people all have one thing in common: any of them that even remotely enjoy sport (watching or playing) will go down to Blundell Park and support the Mariners.

The Mariners are the one thing that bind us together - not just those who currently live in the town, but those who moved away and live elsewhere.

This just isn't true. Bearing in mind that a significant percentage of our support is from exiles then that would mean there is only a couple of thousand people who "remotely enjoy" sport in a town with a population over 100,000.