Garth Lane

Quoted from 1mickylyons

That being the case if Garth Lane was the most suitable it changes things. The problem here is the local council and there dithering which in turn as the Club going round and round wasting money on feasibility studies.A new ground is in the local plan so FFS Council set out where the Club can actually have it then get it built I wonder will we ever see it?

Agreed.

PP was seen as the quickest and easiest option which I get. I just think this site being made available and being part of a massive redevelopment that has the likes of Norman Lamont and David Ross backing it means it could be a better option now.

From the Telegraph artcile:

Garth Lane is a key piece in the jigsaw that aims to help create 12 hectares of waterfront/town centre mixed-use sites, as well as 5,400 new jobs, 7,700 new homes and 195 hectares of employment land.

This sounds very much like an enabling development opportunity to me.

With the backing this scheme has it seems nailed on to go ahead. If it does then will there be any appetite for a similar scheme close by at PP? I am not so sure.

Quoted from RoboCod

You could certainly avoid any traffic/parking problems by kayaking to the ground.

Unfortunately you would need permissions from ABP to navigate the docks if you approach from the Humber and to access from the upper reaches of the Haven several bridges would have to raised to allow you to pass under....and for that reason its a terrible site and makes this location totally unviable for a football stadium.  
I believe this was noted on Page 827 Para 2 of the previous viability study.

Page 828 Para 3,  does indicate that Haile Sands Fort would be the most kayak, boat, helicopter friendly location for a stadium.

I can see it coming now. The next council meeting will have someone point out the change of status at Garth Lane, they'll expect GTFC to pay for a new study to be done. Meantime, someone will dig up a piece of viking pottery at the Peakes Parkway site or some ridiculous reason to not build there. The club will refocus on Garths Lane. Sainsburys and shops in the precinct will object because of fans potentially using their parking, locals will complain. We'll draw up plans, then another study just in time for another site to be available and the great merry-go-round will start again.

Its same pattern again. The council recommend Great Coates, someone objects, process gets drawn out, someone says "isn't there somewhere else more suitable?". Council recommend Peakes Parkway, someone objects......

You're right. We should abandon PP. Write of everything so far and look at Garth Lane.
A couple of years and a good few grand later the flats will be knocked down in Freemo. We could then abandon Garth Lane and go for Freeman St. Etc etc etc etc.  
One of the reasons I fear the new ground will not be built is the total lack of unity for WHEREVER it would be planned.  I know we can't please everybody but I just want to see the fking thing built.

Edit:  Scrumble, you beat me by seconds you b@@@@d 😉

Quoted from Civvy at last

Edit:  Scrumble, you beat me by seconds you b@@@@d 😉

Great minds think a like, or fools seldom differ. Take your pick

I don't think its anything on GTFC's part, its the councils actions. If we had been trying to build a monsterous warehouse, which we'd vacate in a couple of years, and leave to go derelict, they'd be throwing cash and land at us. Maybe thats what we should do, build a massive warehouse with stadium inside.

Quoted from scrumble

Its same pattern again. The council recommend Great Coates, someone objects, process gets drawn out, someone says "isn't there somewhere else more suitable?". Council recommend Peakes Parkway, someone objects......

You missed out that we got the planning permission to build at Great Coates and it was the club /JF that decided not to pursue that site and look elsewhere instead......all previous hold ups where as a result of the due process that the council had to follow.

Again...it always comes back to the fact that WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY to move ourselves, we are over reliant on an enabling development / partners to make it happen.

Have the historical councils been previously pro active?... no i dont think they have....the current council set up seems to have been more helpful with the PP site though.

Personally i cannot believe that the council and other agencies couldnt be brought together to raise a case for the development of the East Marsh/Freeman St area.When you have one of the UK's highest ranking  areas of deprivation then surely external funding could be tapped in to redevelop the whole area alongside a "community stadium".  Timescales would probably be the downside to this but then again.....1988 was it that we started considering moving ??

Quoted from psgmariner

Agreed.

PP was seen as the quickest and easiest option which I get. I just think this site being made available and being part of a massive redevelopment that has the likes of Norman Lamont and David Ross backing it means it could be a better option now.

With it being next to water surely we would run the risk of disturbing a rare water vole or pink headed duck or something?

[quote=763  I know we can't please everybody but I just want to see the fking thing built.
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This is basically how I feel about the situation. I want us to have a new modern ground,I want us to make positive steps forward like a new ground and better training facilities etc. I don't care about if it overlooks the dock tower and the fishing heritage centre so everyone can feel local pride etc.

Garth Lane

I have heard he's a waste of space.