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TownSNAFU5
September 5, 2017, 10:28am
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Don't get too excited over the Germany 1 England 5 result.  (Outstanding as it was).  Guess which team did a lot better at the next World Cup?

The main point is that Grimsby Town has gone top of the Championship with a win on Fri night.  Really hard to believe that England stole our thunder from being top of the tree.  Only downhill from there...................

I think that the 5-1 win was within a day of so of the new car number-plates system.  This started with a "51". you could not make it up.  
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September 5, 2017, 10:46am
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There's actually a pretty good book about how German football turned itself around after the weak performances of the late 1990s/early 2000s. Pithy title as well, "Das Reboot".

Needless to say, the DFB reorganised the game in Germany with teutonic efficiency for the benefit of all levels of football and the national team, instead of just shovelling more and more of the money up to the biggest clubs as we always do over here.
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I'm not sure why anyone believes media hype about England. In 67 years we've been close to winning, what, 3 tournaments? And 2 of those were here!


How many tournaments have there been in that time though? About 25? So we are close to winning 1 in 8, and have qualified to almost all of them. It's not that bad a return.

FIFA and EUFA have devalued the World Cup and Euros by allowing so many teams in them now that its getting harder to win (but laughably easy to qualify), especially when the smaller nations adopt a tactic of playing for penalties. I would expect a much bigger range of winners over the next few years if the current format and rules prevail, as it's more of a lottery now.


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September 5, 2017, 12:46pm

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How many tournaments have there been in that time though? About 25? So we are close to winning 1 in 8, and have qualified to almost all of them. It's not that bad a return.


But people compare England to Germany, who have won 7 tournaments and have finished runners up in another 6.


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September 5, 2017, 2:24pm

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Quoted from TownSNAFU5
Don't get too excited over the Germany 1 England 5 result.  (Outstanding as it was).  Guess which team did a lot better at the next World Cup?

The main point is that Grimsby Town has gone top of the Championship with a win on Fri night.  Really hard to believe that England stole our thunder from being top of the tree.  Only downhill from there...................

I think that the 5-1 win was within a day of so of the new car number-plates system.  This started with a "51". you could not make it up.  


Pedant alert. It was actually a 1pm kick-off on the Saturday. The England game kicked off about 5pm I think that day.


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I don't see why Hart is always first choice pick, in my opinion Jak Butland is a far superior goalkeeper.
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Butland and Pickford are already better than Hart and they won't stop improving for another 4 or 5 years so we need to stop persisting with Hart and play either of those 2.


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England keepers are always the same. We think we've got one less clumsy and error-prone than the previous one until they get to about 28yo old and become a complete clown. I saw Hart's 'highlights' from his game away at Newcastle for West Ham which actually looked more like a blooper tape of bad deaths by gunshot in films. He was diving any other way than the way the ball was going. Pirlo probably ended his potential as a world class keeper at Euro 2012 with his panenka penalty. There is no coming back from that confidence wise.
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September 5, 2017, 7:49pm

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Has Hart ever saved a shot down to his left?


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I'm watching the England U21s        HT  England  2-0  Latvia

We look to have some good young talent coming through  


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