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ginnywings
September 4, 2017, 9:54pm

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Germany  1-5  England  



Yeah, even more staggering is we were one of the teams to beat them and in their own back yard. Thrashed them in fact but i don't think they have lost a qualifier since and have won the odd tournament or three.
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Says it all, Neville gives man if the match to Henderson, and the commentator quoted Southgate saying Jones is our best defender, how far in technical and quality terms are we behind the Germans, Spain etc.
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I'll never ever believe the media hype about our players. Every tournament we go to we say we're going to do better than last time and invariably we fail, it's been getting worse and worse throughout my lifetime. Conversely, we always go to tournaments and the same pundits who big up England tell us the Germany and particularly Italy are not what they used to be and won't do as well as they normally and equally as invariably they get to the last 8 at the very least.


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I'll never ever believe the media hype about our players. Every tournament we go to we say we're going to do better than last time and invariably we fail, it's been getting worse and worse throughout my lifetime. Conversely, we always go to tournaments and the same pundits who big up England tell us the Germany and particularly Italy are not what they used to be and won't do as well as they normally and equally as invariably they get to the last 8 at the very least.


Get used to it mate. I've been waiting since 1966 to see an England team look like they can win a tournament again. Ever since we muffed it against the Krauts in 1970, it's been a perpetual disappointment. Muffed it against the Krauts a couple of more times along the way too.
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September 4, 2017, 10:02pm
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Not sure which is worse tbf, the football or the punditry. All of them just there for the copious amounts of money being thrown about.


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

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September 4, 2017, 10:09pm

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I'd say that they've knocked Chelsea out on 2 of the past 3 seasons so they are better than our lot. You get my drift regardless


It was more the youth system bit instead of spending extortionate amounts of money that I was referring to, but yes, I do!


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I'll never ever believe the media hype about our players. Every tournament we go to we say we're going to do better than last time and invariably we fail, it's been getting worse and worse throughout my lifetime. Conversely, we always go to tournaments and the same pundits who big up England tell us the Germany and particularly Italy are not what they used to be and won't do as well as they normally and equally as invariably they get to the last 8 at the very least.


Actually I think the expectation has been much lower in both the media and the public since probably the farce of 2010. Since then I don't think the media think we are anymore than quarter final fodder and I don't think many of us do either. Actually it makes a nice change to go into a tournament with low expectations. Makes the disappointment much easier to take 😏
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England have usually gone into tournaments with a few World Class players and a strong defence and goalkeeper which means they have a chance on paper.Looking at the current England squad Rashford and Alli might one day be World Class and possibly Kane the rest are average at best and the defence and goalkeeper positions are weaker than I can ever remember?
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When the manager is apparently saying Phil Jones is our best defender, you know there's a problem somewhere.
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I'm not sure why anyone believes media hype about England. In 67 years we've been close to winning, what, 3 tournaments? And 2 of those were here!


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