Flexible train tickets with labour

I can't really see this working because of the administrative costs, but it would be good if it does go ahead! Doesn't affect us much in L2 but last year in the NL it was a nightmare trying to buy advance tickets because of the TV/FAT games.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40069110

Corbyn reminds me of Viv Nicholson.
He gets in and the country will find itself in the same position as her 👎🏻

Quoted from GrimRob

I can't really see this working because of the administrative costs, but it would be good if it does go ahead! Doesn't affect us much in L2 but last year in the NL it was a nightmare trying to buy advance tickets because of the TV/FAT games.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40069110

There is a major flaw in your plan Rob. It involves Labour getting into power.

And of course, as someone who believes football should be for the many and not the few,  I presume Jeremy is a season ticket,  attend every game supporter. Otherwise him going to Wembley would make him a bit of a hypocrite wouldn't it ???

Quoted from Civvy at last

There is a major flaw in your plan Rob. It involves Labour getting into power.

And of course, as someone who believes football should be for the many and not the few,  I presume Jeremy is a season ticket,  attend every game supporter. Otherwise him going to Wembley would make him a bit of a hypocrite wouldn't it ???

At least Corbyn is coming up with ideas,  May looks more clueless every day, We have a choice with more cuts and austerity from one side and investment and hope on the other,

Tell you what.
Being as its close season, let's just come on here and slag off May/Corbyn etc et fcuking cetera.
For what it's worth. I do think May is clueless.   But she's been handed the country on a plate by a totally sh1te opposition. Nobody in politics (including the IRA sympathiser) actually are prepared to unite to save the country. If ALL parties spent more time concentrating on improving their own party instead of just rubbishing every single idea from other parties there might, just MIGHT be some girl private worth electing.

Rob, any chance of putting a post on about how Brexit may affect our football teams,
then we can have a 45 page thread on Labour v Conservative !!  FFS

The general cost and standard of trains in this country is scandalous.

Last year we booked a few first class tickets for trains in Italy that were incredibly cheap and virtually brand new carriages. We've just booked 2 flexible first class singles from Lisbon to Faro for €76. Similer journey to something like London to York which would be £466 here to travel on a knackered old train with a prepacked sandwich.

Well the Bosman ruling was forced on football by the EU if my memory serves me right , before that we seemed to have loyal footballers earning a lot less but staying at the same club for years , maybe us being outside of the EU could change things back how they was ?

What an awful policy, less money would be flowing for the genuine and hardworking railway staff that don't have it exactly easy right now. The real policy on football would be to chase the chairmens/Presidents and attempt to lower the regulation on ticket prices.

Corbyn is all talk, says he's going to do things that require a lot of funding but you have to wonder where it is going to come from. Just think about the financial mess the country was in last one labour was in power.

Don't get me wrong I strongly disagree with some of the conservatives polices, sin as the health and social care polices but at least they're realistic.

Corbyn is in a world of his own and just says what the public want to hear.

I'll be extremely disappointed of labour is elected in Grimsby again. Hope Melanie's off. Would be a hugely backwards move imo.

I want football to be fairer to fans but I don't think corbyn has thought this through and there are better more realistic ways of going about it.

Hate to have a rant about politics on a football forum but ull get it out of the way now.

I don't trust any politician fully and I'm fed up of all.l of their election campaigns. Am I the only one that's noticed they spend all their time saying why we shouldn't vote for opposition parties instead of why we should vote for them. All parties are equally guilty of this.

I also think celebrities and the likes should be banned from talking about their political views publicly. Let's say Hardy Styles tweets saying he's voting for labour because they're against brexit - Harry Styles' fans will vote for labour because he does instead of engaging their own brains.

Anyway, no matter what system they introduce to make football fairer for fans, greedy premier league clubs and the FA/EFL will find some way around round it. For example; if clubs are told to put aside 5% of their turnover back towards making tickets cheaper for fans, they'd just increase ticket prices by 5% to cover it.

Apologies for any spelling/grammar errors, I always seem incapable of typing on my phone.

I just have no idea why we are having this stupid election. We had one two years ago and there was meant to be one in three years time.  It will be the 7th ballot paper I will have filled in in the last 3 years - it's absolutely crazy. I elect and pay politicians to make decisions not keep coming back to me to make decisions for them. I genuinely just want it over and done with.

The only thing I like that Corbyn has said, is that he wants the railways back in the hands of the government, which will never happen because of the costs involved.

Corbyn is stuck in the 1950s as a student union member and doesn't see that the world has moved on mass nationalisation, extortionate taxes and anti-capitalism, anti-wealth creation ideology.

Corbyn seems intent on destroying people who are determined to better themselves and make more money by starting their own business as he wants to increase corporation tax so markedly that all big business would go "see ya" within the week and nobody would start smaller companies because they think what's the point?

As I see it the problem with the socialist movement is that is what it says, it's a movement, not designed to gain power and introduce what they perceive as a more equal society. The more moderate and liberal governments don't feel threatened by it because the self-selected sample of extremists who are members don't view election success as important. Only 24% of Labour members think Tony Blair was successful, he won three elections and is the only Labour leader to win an election since 1974. That is a dangerous position for Britain to be in as the Tories don't feel like they are a bad move away from disaster, in previous years that social care shenanigans would have been catastrophic but since Corbyn finds it impossible to challenge May directly he can't seize the moment and claw back a good number of votes but he didn't.

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I do find it amazing how much of a influence the Tory funded newspapers have on the election. I don't have a problem with Murdoch and his chums in not wanting to pay much tax but I can't understand why people can't see the clear Tory bias so that they won't get taxed as much with a Tory govermeant.

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Corbyn seems intent on destroying people who are determined to better themselves and make more money by starting their own business as he wants to increase corporation tax so markedly that all big business would go "see ya" within the week and nobody would start smaller companies because they think what's the point?

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Quoted from 1739

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This above is a list of numbers that add up but make no account of what happens in the real world. It is a proven fact that the Corporation Tax take increases as the rate goes down, so the £19.4bn extra tax take will never happen, so there's a black hole there for a start, never mind not adding in the omitted extra cost of nationalisations which could cost us the taxpayer up to £300bn. A lot of the other tax grabs in there on the city and big business could put our country and our jobs at severe risk especially during and after Brexit. It's a global world and companies will just up and leave to a better economic climate or shed jobs.

Going back to the OP re train tickets. I find it laughable that Corbyn has been going round offering anything he possibly can like he's got a blank cheque book for everything. At a time when we could have done with all the main parties coming together to get the best Brexit deal for the whole country, the Labour party has shifted back to its true roots, laudable ideals which bear no reflection in being made into a costed reality. So Corbyn's train ticket proposal will never come fruition, but if it did I don't think we'd be worrying about whether we can save a few quid exchanging train tickets.

On a forum where reckless free spending football club owners are roundly condemned and criticised, I find it hard to see the same people not seeing beyond lifelong tribal affinities and see the above manifesto for what it is, uncosted and reckless policies to shore up a core vote, dog whistle politics at it's very worst and in the end however the election ends up, it is us the taxpayer who will suffer the most, with an unchecked Tory party or out of pocket with a tax crazy Labour government.

Quoted from 1739

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If corbyn wins all the rich people will move their businesses and wealth abroad.

As for Blair, the nation will only remember him as a warmonger and a thief.

Non football

People still blaming the Labour Party for the global economic meltdown, it was Labour who saved the economy, if they didn't bail out the banks I'm sure we'd have been in a worst position. One day Brown will be credited with the success of his actions. Our problems were caused by the greed of the US and UK banks.

You only need to have spent any time in A and E over the past couple of years or rang an ambulance for someone to know that the Tories have made the country far worse. How anyone in our area can vote Tory is beyond me. The labour manifesto gives people a clear choice and looks to address social inequality.

Unregulated banks caused the last crash. Labour government bailed them out causing the big jump in government debt. The economy was growing again when the Tories took over and their austerity policies stifled growth whilst debt continued to rise.

Corbyn's policies are mild - compare them to the highly successful Nordic countries who have more 'left wing' economic models.

The government could have been investing in the country all this time at interest rates almost zero.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

The only thing I like that Corbyn has said, is that he wants the railways back in the hands of the government, which will never happen because of the costs involved.

This will be the easiest and cheapest re nationalisation, companies do not pay the govt to get a franchise they all get massive subsidies, we are paying Bransoin(paid no tax since the 70s) and others, millions to deliver crap service. As each contract runs out the Govt will take over

Quoted from Bigdog

This above is a list of numbers that add up but make no account of what happens in the real world. It is a proven fact that the Corporation Tax take increases as the rate goes down, so the £19.4bn extra tax take will never happen, so there's a black hole there for a start, never mind not adding in the omitted extra cost of nationalisations which could cost us the taxpayer up to £300bn. A lot of the other tax grabs in there on the city and big business could put our country and our jobs at severe risk especially during and after Brexit. It's a global world and companies will just up and leave to a better economic climate or shed jobs.

Going back to the OP re train tickets. I find it laughable that Corbyn has been going round offering anything he possibly can like he's got a blank cheque book for everything. At a time when we could have done with all the main parties coming together to get the best Brexit deal for the whole country, the Labour party has shifted back to its true roots, laudable ideals which bear no reflection in being made into a costed reality. So Corbyn's train ticket proposal will never come fruition, but if it did I don't think we'd be worrying about whether we can save a few quid exchanging train tickets.

On a forum where reckless free spending football club owners are roundly condemned and criticised, I find it hard to see the same people not seeing beyond lifelong tribal affinities and see the above manifesto for what it is, uncosted and reckless policies to shore up a core vote, dog whistle politics at it's very worst and in the end however the election ends up, it is us the taxpayer who will suffer the most, with an unchecked Tory party or out of pocket with a tax crazy Labour government.

The Tories have a list but quite arrogantly have no figures, just trust us, we have only racked up record national debt. The Labour policies are decent and sensible, not to say popular.  If you think more austerity will make the country better off you are crazy.  More cuts and less investment means less growth .  Corbyn  has a plan, similar but not ad radical as a lot of Scandinavian countries, yes they pay more tax, but in quality of life surveys they always comer top. I am lucky enough to be in the higher tax bracket but was brought up to value fairness and equality and do not mind paying a little more if it will help people rather than go towards bombing other countries

In truth what will lose Labour the election is the leader and shadow cabinet members, their policies good or bad don't even come a close second.
Different faces and leadership would have been a real threat to the Torys