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Mariner_09
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Maybe though it's best to address the issue now so it isn't an issue when we lose, if other teams have it and JF is so tight as to not allow additional coaching staff and S&C trainers then we are handicapping ourselves.


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Maybe though it's best to address the issue now so it isn't an issue when we lose, if other teams have it and JF is so tight as to not allow additional coaching staff and S&C trainers then we are handicapping ourselves.


How do you know that JF is the one not allowing it? You don't. Town fans have to accept there is only so much money in the pot for playing & coaching. Simple economics you have to manage your outgoings based upon your incomings..JF and PH are not at fault for all the short comings of the squad and playing set up. That argument is getting very boring now.



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If you noticed I said "if" yes there is an implication in my post, but we need to make sure we can compete against sides in this league, if by March-April time we are utterly knackered and others look fit then that could be a cause.


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If you noticed I said "if" yes there is an implication in my post, but we need to make sure we can compete against sides in this league, if by March-April time we are utterly knackered and others look fit then that could be a cause.


Fair point, when you get to that stage of the season the danger is that players will be mentally drained as much as physically. I know they are footballers but 9/10 months of train, travel, play - train, travel, play must grind you down a bit. I am a fan of some form of winter break but it will never happen in the EFL.


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How do you know that JF is the one not allowing it? You don't. Town fans have to accept there is only so much money in the pot for playing & coaching. Simple economics you have to manage your outgoings based upon your incomings..JF and PH are not at fault for all the short comings of the squad and playing set up. That argument is getting very boring now.



Good points. The manager will have a budget and it's up to him how he wants to spend it. If he is successful and gets more bums on seats, then he is in a stronger position to ask for more if he feels he needs to add to his playing or backroom staff, which has already happened with Gary Whild coming into the set up. We have to trust that the manager knows what he is doing and gets the best out of what he has to work with.
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But if the gate is 500 per home game above budget hypothetically then the spend budget should be reviewed . Just normal business practice.
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But if the gate is 500 per home game above budget hypothetically then the spend budget should be reviewed . Just normal business practice.


Yes, that's what i'm getting at. The gates have been good this season and maybe it is that which is driving the new signings, as we already have a big squad. Extra income could also be used to mitigate the seasons losses- that is for the board to decide.
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I doubt the club budgeted for average gates of 5000 or more, maybe 4300 or something like that but if we say on aveage those 700 people spend £20 each on a programme, ticket, pie, beer or in the club shop then that's an extra 14k per home match, over the 12 games we've played at home that is £168,000 extra than budgeted, now I expect that the Checkatrade Trophy games cost the club a few quid so lets say we have 120k extra in the pot, that could sign a couple of really good players at this level.


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Good points. The manager will have a budget and it's up to him how he wants to spend it. If he is successful and gets more bums on seats, then he is in a stronger position to ask for more if he feels he needs to add to his playing or backroom staff, which has already happened with Gary Whild coming into the set up. We have to trust that the manager knows what he is doing and gets the best out of what he has to work with.


Also some of the surplus from gates receipts could be aimed at deal extensions for the likes of Omar & Danny Collins. Shaun Pearson (amongst others) is out of contract at the end of this term so it could also support agreeing terms prior to the end of this season.


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I don't want to sound like a "reliable source" but JF has told someone who I think is pretty sensible that an average gate of over 4,800 means that the playing budget gets a boost.

The interesting word in there is "average" so it takes time for any excess gate receipts to land in the hand of the manager as like any SME financial budget it is based upon a period of retrospective performance rather than week to week spikes.  

In reality Marcus may not feel the benefit of the current jump in attendances until the close season.


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