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Helgy
October 26, 2016, 8:55pm
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Seen the Cowley's at work never L2 level, not for you more than happy to keep them at the Bank.
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Fair enough we will leave them alone ... as long as you send Nathan back out why. It's him or them I'm afraid
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Quoted from Helgy
Seen the Cowley's at work never L2 level, not for you more than happy to keep them at the Bank.


Helgy, maybe you should point out to the Vital cranks that the Bookies are pretty much behind all of this, they put Cowley and others up to generate interest and shift the odds for their own benefit. You know this of course, but the explosion of anger and bitterness on the Cowley's thread is stunning, all because of some betting odds...we've now seen the age old catchment area 'potential', Grimsby's a hole/all of Lincoln is paradise routine, BP is a terrible ground and no manager would go there (!) and of course Fenty has bought all of the success we've ever had.

I pray for you Helgy, who on earth do you find to have a reasoned, sensible chat with in the footballing mental home that is Vital Lincoln?



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Helgy, maybe you should point out to the Vital cranks that the Bookies are pretty much behind all of this, they put Cowley and others up to generate interest and shift the odds for their own benefit. You know this of course, but the explosion of anger and bitterness on the Cowley's thread is stunning, all because of some betting odds...we've now seen the age old catchment area 'potential', Grimsby's a hole/all of Lincoln is paradise routine, BP is a terrible ground and no manager would go there (!) and of course Fenty has bought all of the success we've ever had.

I pray for you Helgy, who on earth do you find to have a reasoned, sensible chat with in the footballing mental home that is Vital Lincoln?



It's the catchment area one that always  makes me chuckle. If anything, it's even more embarrassing that they can't fill our away end or average over 3500 at home if they're blessed with such a great "catchment area" compared to ours.
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Just had a quick look at Lincoln Vital after a talk of a meltdown with the gimps fans. Don't particularly want the Cowley's here but posts like this have made the links well worthwhile, taken off their site


Why would they consider going anywhere at the moment? Yes, they could probably manage at a slightly higher level, but so what? The reality of that can be very different to the ideal:

** At Lincoln they have a very affable chairman who allows them complete control of the playing side - they would not get that at many clubs. How many chairmen can resist meddling in team affairs? Not many at all. And how many clubs have interfering, useless directors of football screwing everything up? A lot have, and that is one of the wonders of the modern football world.

** They have a board of directors that has backed them to the hilt in the transfer market; this flows from the point above.

** They will be given lots of time to get things right on the pitch - many clubs have no patience at all.

** They have a great modern stadium already, which is fantastic for a NL club, and a new one in the offing. I wonder how many players decide to sign for Lincoln as soon as they see the ground? Victorian Blundell Park, to cite one obvious contrast, is absolutely dreadful in every way. A horrible, depressing place to watch football, so imagine what it must be like to work there every day.

** Training facilities are excellent at both SB and Sobraon. Apparently better than at certain other clubs locally.

** They have very useful links with the university and other organisations in the city which may be difficult to replicate elsewhere (impossible in Grimsby).

** The personal package - rumoured salaries, the house, the car - is extremely good for this level. How much do they need at present?

** They are testing their methodology in a professional environment for the first time; it would be extremely unwise to move on to a bigger club (and Grimsby are not, they are just at a higher level temporarily) until those methods are proven.

** In next to no time, they have built a very high quality squad that will get better and better as the season progresses; that must be as exciting for them as it is for us, and they will surely want to see that through.

** They have a great relationship with the fans which might be hard to replicate at a club where expectations would surely be higher. Grimsby supporters had a poor relationship with the manager who (eventually) got them promoted - why on earth would any manager want to step into that environment?

** And for the benefit of those who believe Grimsby have more potential, let's have a quick look at the relative demographics. The populations are roughly similar, although the City of Lincoln has 6,500 more people than the town of Grimsby; on the other hand, the urban area of Grimsby (including outlying areas) is still marginally larger than Lincoln's (i.e. including North Hykeham) but there isn't a great deal either way. But here is the important bit: the population of Grimsby is falling and has been for some years; the town has an older population than the national average; there is nothing in the town to attract new investment. There are social problems galore, a core industry that has all-but disappeared, a run-down appearance in general, limited educational facilities and much more. By contrast the population of Lincoln is growing (plus seasonal influx from students); it has a younger population than the national average. It has a university bringing young people and investment to the city in droves. It is a very attractive city on the whole - just look at the view from the executive boxes at Sincil Bank for starters. Lincoln is getting better and better all the time, and is a stark contrast to the city I left a third of a century ago. These gaps will continue to widen. Where would you sooner be?

They will leave Lincoln eventually, of course they will, but this is a very good place to be at this point in their careers. They have a very real chance of achieving something significant, of adding real value, of being remembered for the right reasons. If they are as smart as we think they are, they won't be going anywhere just yet.

Read more: http://www.lincoln.vitalfootba.....sts=50#ixzz4OE4wxaaM

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It's funny because they say that we're the ones with our heads up our arses. I was hoping they'd go up as it's good for the area but they're in a fantasy land. Some nutjob is claiming that Fenty should have the freedom of Grimsby and we've "overachieved" because of him  .
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It will be interesting to revisit  when Imps are still stuck in non league in 12/24/36 months time and see what they are saying then
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These Lincoln City fans are a disillusioned , lot I will flip all there talk around - After our withdrawal from the EU there will be a 'boom ' in the fishing industry , and the majority of the UK will flock to Grimsby ; the mothership of our wonderful new era . 🙃🐺
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Talk about bitter illegitimates we have a history and heritage Lincoln could only dream about never ever in our thoughts
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I didn't use to mind then but it seems over the last few years they've got above their station - ironically when they're going lower and lower .... Hopefully they fall even further through - what league are Cleethorpes Town in ? Wouldn't mind going to that one .
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