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KingstonMariner
September 3, 2016, 2:25pm
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Really important to bear in mind there are a LOT of people who are cracking keyboard warriors but wouldn't step up and act when/if the club became fan run. And as someone who does volunteer and give up a lot of my free time (for free) for the Trust to benefit the club, there aren't hundreds more willing to do the same. That isn't aimed at either you KR or Cloudy, just a general comment. Lots of people talk a great game, but won't/can't match it with action.

Speaking personally (not the view of the Trust for the eagle eyes on here) I'd welcome the views of fans being taken more seriously to avoid a repeat of Portugal and so the decision-makers are much more aware of the strength of feeling when important decisions are taken in the future.

Plenty of people can have their say direct to the club's board at the fan's forum later this month both in person and my sending in questions which can be read out.


And the point is what in the context of some people wishing the club was owned by the Trust?

There's plenty of people with a view on what government policy should be, but you can't be saying they need to shut up unless they're willing to get involved in politics.


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And the point is what in the context of some people wishing the club was owned by the Trust?

There's plenty of people with a view on what government policy should be, but you can't be saying they need to shut up unless they're willing to get involved in politics.


Well the two are very, very different things. Not even close to being the same! No one has told anyone to shut up. Too much fantasy world dreaming from too many Town fans at times.
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Is the fishy really just a vocal minority though? Surely a representative sample of any group will be pretty much the same when expanded to a majority vote among a bigger sample size. Mori polls accurately predict election results based on a small sample size of vote. There will be just as broad a range of opinions on the fishy as there will be among fans that don't use social media. None of the people i attend BP with are for these proposals and none of them use the fishy. We are not just a bunch of web warriors.
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Well the two are very, very different things. Not even close to being the same! No one has told anyone to shut up. Too much fantasy world dreaming from too many Town fans at times.


The football club owes too much money to become a viable fans-run proposition anyway.
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The football club owes too much money to one man to become a viable fans-run proposition anyway.


My opinion only....
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My opinion only....


A much debated point, means the future is in his hands.
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Sorry but you are as biased as they come and we both know why!

Being in JF's circle doesn't mean you have to support him on everything, grow a pair, question and challenge, but we both know if you did you would no longer be in the clique!!

Your response sums up JF in that they shouldn't take any notice of fans, that is the job of the Trust, just pathetic but equally very worrying.

Is Twitter or any social media not representative of fans views? If GTFC and football in general stopped just listening to the inner circle the game would be in a far far stronger position.


My response does not sum up JF as you say I was just pointing out 50 vocal posters on here does not necessarily represent the majority of fans in general.
I don't agree with everything the club, board or JF does but the difference is I tell him to his face and not hide behind a  pseudonym and a keyboard.

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A gap in the Premier League this weekend for the international break meant Bournemouth and West Brom could play friendlies with football giants AC Milan and Delhi Dynamoes (an IPL B team?) today. No wonder they want a winter break with all these - needless - extra fixtures.
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My response does not sum up JF as you say I was just pointing out 50 vocal posters on here does not necessarily represent the majority of fans in general.
I don't agree with everything the club, board or JF does but the difference is I tell him to his face and not hide behind a  pseudonym and a keyboard.



It isn't 50 vocal posters on here though is it? If you and JF think it is, and his comments to Ginny suggests he believes it, then you all and he are further out of touch than I first thought.

Lots of fans are very frustrated at the way the club rolled over for the Under 21/23s inclusion in the EFL Trophy, the fact the Trust weren't even aware the meeting was taking place let alone asked for a view, the fact JF stated publically that B teams inclusion in the FL could be a positive thing and above all the club cannot see anything wrong with this.

BTW. JF knows who I am
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It isn't 50 vocal posters on here though is it? If you and JF think it is, and his comments to Ginny suggests he believes it, then you all and he are further out of touch than I first thought.

Lots of fans are very frustrated at the way the club rolled over for the Under 21/23s inclusion in the EFL Trophy, the fact the Trust weren't even aware the meeting was taking place let alone asked for a view, the fact JF stated publically that B teams inclusion in the FL could be a positive thing and above all the club cannot see anything wrong with this.

BTW. JF knows who I am


Non vocal and agree with Cloudy.

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