Bosman ruling

Yeah, it was a court ruling on Jean-Marc Bosman's claim for freedom of movement between jobs ( a right enshrined in EU law the the old contract retention system in football contravened). After the ruling clubs could no longer demand a fee for out of contract players, which meant players could negotiate better wages.

Is he any good, this Bosman fella? I mean, CHDAJATL?

Quoted from Biccys

Is he any good, this Bosman fella? I mean, CHDAJATL?

Spotted my first CHDAJATL of the season. It's getting earlier and earlier each year. Must be global warming.

So, is it fair that an out of contract player can just leave a club without someone paying a fee for him to the current club? I'm not looking for regulations or legislation, I'm interested to know people's personal opinions.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Yeah, it was a court ruling on Jean-Marc Bosman's claim for freedom of movement between jobs ( a right enshrined in EU law the the old contract retention system in football contravened). After the ruling clubs could no longer demand a fee for out of contract players, which meant players could negotiate better wages.

Yes I know that! But the ruling was adopted by FIFA and UEFA, same way as the transfer window actually restricts freedom of movement yet is still a FIFA rule.

Yes, in theory, if we came out of the EU we wouldn't need to abide by the Bosman ruling. But it would still be a FIFA and UEFA rule which clubs would still have to abide by unless they are no longer in competitions governed by those organisations.

Quoted from bax

Yes I know that! But the ruling was adopted by FIFA and UEFA, same way as the transfer window actually restricts freedom of movement yet is still a FIFA rule.

Yes, in theory, if we came out of the EU we wouldn't need to abide by the Bosman ruling. But it would still be a FIFA and UEFA rule which clubs would still have to abide by unless they are no longer in competitions governed by those organisations.

Didn't realise they'd actually written it into their rules.

So far no one has tested the transfer window's legality. I guess the EC are not prioritising it and just leaving it to individuals to take up a case.

Quoted from Tinymariner

So, is it fair that an out of contract player can just leave a club without someone paying a fee for him to the current club? I'm not looking for regulations or legislation, I'm interested to know people's personal opinions.

Yes. On the whole it's fair. The opposite is a modified form of indentured labour.

My reservation is about clubs that develop talent having their investment snatched away - something which the carve out on young players attempts to rectify. But in other industries there is no protection for the employer who trains young people, unlike the old old days when you were 'bound an apprentice for 7 years'.

My personal view is I would like to see less European players and managers coming into the countey,

The days of an ENGLISH club being managed by a coach from abroad selecting non English players will only be better for the national side,


A limit of 5 players per team will be fair giving our own grown players a better chance of making it in the game,

It will also help bring down the silly money being paid to the top players,

So Man U and C, Chelsea ect will not be able to compete with Barca and Real, who cares ?

Quoted from grimsby pete

My personal view is I would like to see less European players and managers coming into the countey,

The days of an ENGLISH club being managed by a coach from abroad selecting non English players will only be better for the national side,


A limit of 5 players per team will be fair giving our own grown players a better chance of making it in the game,

It will also help bring down the silly money being paid to the top players,

So Man U and C, Chelsea ect will not be able to compete with Barca and Real, who cares ?

Because of course the England national team was amazing during the 70's and 80's when foreign players were a rarity in our teams.

My own personal view is that if an English player is good enough, then he will force himself past the foreigners. Maybe part of the problem is the amount of money the young players are paid and so they dont push themselves.

A young player even being paid 10k a week (of which there are several) can potentially be set for life on a 3 year deal, providing they are sensible with the money. Why would they want to push themselves, unless they have the motivation to be the best, which lets be honest very few actually have.

Quoted from biggles9999

Because of course the England national team was amazing during the 70's and 80's when foreign players were a rarity in our teams.

My own personal view is that if an English player is good enough, then he will force himself past the foreigners. Maybe part of the problem is the amount of money the young players are paid and so they dont push themselves.

A young player even being paid 10k a week (of which there are several) can potentially be set for life on a 3 year deal, providing they are sensible with the money. Why would they want to push themselves, unless they have the motivation to be the best, which lets be honest very few actually have.

O h it must be an English thing then,

Only non English players push themselves to be the very best,

I did not know that,

Seriously I do not miss seeing   Ronaldo, and co playing in our country,

I am only interested in Town players and the top English players getting plenty of game time in the Prem,

This must be the first English squad that are not all automatic choices for their club team.