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Candidates for the Deputy Leadership
Angela Eagle Caroline Flint Ben Bradshaw Stella Creasy Tom Watson
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Tom Watson the clear favourite.
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Tom Watson the clear favourite.
Not any more he just had 3 bogies.
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It seems no one in the media wants Jeremy perhaps they are frightened because he doesn`t want to play by their rules. He has a stance that even tories wouldn`t have regarded as left wing in th early 80`s
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If he wins he is going to apologise for the Iraq war. This is going to cost us a fortune, were there is blame there's a claim FFS.
If he apologises what does this mean for teflon Blair, will Corbyn release documents of the time to show Blair as a liar and war monger.
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I see that he's odds on favourite to win now, the bookies not usually wrong, bleak times ahead for the Labour Party they will soon to be nothing more than an insignificant party of protest. It's seems crazy to think as all the infighting unfolds regarding the validity of the upcoming vote that 4 months ago this was the party that wanted to run the country, yet they can't even run a leadership contest.
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I wouldn't be so certain that Corbyn as leader would lead Labour to become insignificant - unless, of course, the PLP try to get rid of him in which case they will get all they deserve. Hopefully any MPs engaging in such a scheme would be duly deselected by their local parties
The right-wing media are certainly worried about something as the smears against Corbyn have been unending (and mostly nonsense, of course). What it has been surprising to see is that the so-called left-wing media lead by the Guardian have also spent much of the last month printing thinly-veiled attacks and endless opinion pieces by arch-Blairites attempting to denigrate him as well. Just goes to show how much there is a real political/Westminster establishment, regardless of party. There isn't a homosexual paper between some of the politicians of the main 3 parties.
One good thing to come out of the process so far is that discussion about different economic and social policies have finally opened up which is somewhat different to earlier this year, when the main parties were almost in lockstep before the election.
As you would expect, the so-called 'Corbynomics' policies have been attacked by various figures in the right-wing media. On the BBC, Peston did a decent enough article on it until the end when his conclusions didn't match the facts (due to his city-centric views on anything to do with the economy), but it is useful that discussion about investment in the economy has actually come to the fore. The establishment figures say they think the proposed process of People's Quantitive Easing (PQE) is unnecessary because the government could simply borrow in the normal manner to invest. This being the case, why don't they?
One thing which has been occurring of late and hasn't attracted too much in the way of comment is the economic turmoil in China. Chinese investment has been one of the strongest factors in the recovery, weak as it has been (plenty of money pumped into the property market has come from China), and Osborne's improbable projections for 'balancing the books' (which remain nonsensical) have surely now become totally impossible. It may be that something like PQE will be required to try to drag us out of another recession before too long. Just depends on how much of an impact problems in China have on the world economy.
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I think a mixed bag of results in next year's elections could make it difficult for the PLP to get rid of him - if Labour do badly in the council elections in the so called aspirational areas and the tories win London mayor again, yet Labour win back the Scottish parliament (12 months after the near wipeout at the GE).
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I find myself permanently embarrassed by a party to which I once belonged, and loved. The scaremongering by "senior" Labour politicians has been utterly woeful and it's totally shambolic. The latest wheeze, to oust a good few thousand of potential Corbyn voters on the back of spurious allegations of entryism is ludicrous.
Harmmand herself has stated quite clearly that the Party needs to reach out to Tory voters and try and win them back. Party officlas are furiously checking social media to purge anyone who has voted Tory previously? You simply could not script this lunacy.
Mark Serwotka, head of the PCS Union is banned from voting. WTF? He's hardly a Tory voter, is he?
The Party will ultimately implode, I think there's no danger of that not happening. I hope it happens sooner than later though so a new rump of a Labour Party can get up and running and start to challenge these Tories who are just p1ssing all over them. "Oh no, George has set us another trap what shall we do?" Self immolation's the way forward for them.
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As someone who has traditionally supported labour, last couple of elections have voted for the greens because there was next to no difference between the others. would not for vote Blair after Iraq. Would like to come back but it seems I'm just the sort they don't want voting for a new leader, they have got themselves in a state by reacting to problem about the voting that doesn't really exist because the establishment candidates look like losing. They can see power slipping away from the westminister elite and are clueless about what to do about it
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