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Ha ha ha! Classic Tory propaganda! Doesn't hold up very well when you look at the actual facts, however: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-mythsYep, there are always one or two who will try to work the system, but they are in a tiny minority. On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice if we could cut down on tax evasion and fraud? HMRC reckons the tax gap is currently £34 billion per year (that's tax that should be paid but isn't) and I've seen comments indicating this hopelessly underestimates the true figure. Rather than hitting the poorest with a few billion of cuts, how about getting the wealthy to pay what they should? There's a thought. Anyway, signing off now as heading off on holiday in about 8 hours! Have a fun week, everyone.
Don't forget to post your final donation to the fund before you spend all your holiday money mate.
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For those of you voting for Corbyn, who are you going to give your second preferences to?
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Toss up between Burnham and not even bothering to list one. At the start of campaigning I didn't even expect to consider voting for any other candidates - sadly Burnham's been a huge disappointment which is why i'm considering not listing a second preference.
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Toss up between Burnham and not even bothering to list one. At the start of campaigning I didn't even expect to consider voting for any other candidates - sadly Burnham's been a huge disappointment which is why i'm considering not listing a second preference.
This. Corbyn or bust for me. Unless something pretty drastic happens I'm not voting for a second choice. If its a mandatory thing then I'll probably vote whoever is perceived to have the least chance of winning so not to effect things. I still predict scheming and standard politician rug pulling to get a Burnham victory.
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Been an interesting betting market this one. Burnham has been favourite from the start but everyone else has had a stint at second favourite and Burham's odds have lengthened considerably.. Corbyn is still a good bet to get the most first preference votes. I backed Cooper at 6/1 originally I have layed her now to cover my bet so I don't lose anything.Hope she wins as well, regardless of policies I think a female candidate would stand a better chance of beating the Tories in 2020.
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When the candidates for Labour leader were interviewed on TV, Corbyn was quizzed about inviting IRA and Islamic fundamentalists to Parliament. He gave a well thought out and reasoned answer, he said something like {you need to get people together to see were they stand and try and find common ground.}
It was a good reply and in that instant for me along with his other answers I said to my wife that he should be leader. I'd no sooner said that, and he was asked on his stance of Northern Ireland and he said he would like to see a unified Ireland. My thoughts after he said that were I hope he puts on some concrete boots and jumps off the Humber bridge.
Not only is he a sympathiser he is an apologist, just another George Galloway but in a different animal skin.
There is a reason why he has stayed on the sidelines for so long.
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The trouble with political bias is that you cover up errors/mistakes/incompetence. I much prefer to take each election as an individual event and then cast my vote according to what feels best at the time.
A couple of you seem hell-bent on pulling apart the arguments of others without examining the flaws in your own. Pathetic really.
My two penneth, the Country needs a strong labour party to push the conservatives to the absolute limits. Elections, like it or not are won in the centre ground by winning the support of the floating voter, labour have lost sight of that. I sincerely hope that they get there act together ready for the next election so that centre ground voters, and yes I am one, have a genuine choice to make.
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1 Burnham 2 Cooper
Watson for deputy after his efforts to take on the Murdoch press
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Without Labour votes from Scotland it is going to be decades before Labour get a sniff of power. Labour had a chance to level the playing field when they were in power to make the voting more democratic but it didn't suit their majority at the time.
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