Jeremy Corbyn

Quoted from bluerose13x

I disagree with a lot of Mr Corbyn's views on socialism, the royals, defence etc but I have a rare sense of respect him as a leader of a political party that tells us his views on things and not  what he thinks we want to hear like the rest of them have been doing for at least the last 20/30years

Absolutely spot on! I've listened to him over the past year now and there's been a few times when even I've found myself nodding in agreement with his speech, than all over a sudden bang! he will make some crazy madman WTF comment.
But I'll give him his due he actually believes in with a passion that what he says he certainly means, which scares the hell out of me.

I compare him to Donald Trump in that respect yes they are both firmly wedged at opposites sides of the political spectrum but they are the only two politicians I know of (edit.. And Farage) who actually seem to mean what they say, the ones we have today just come across to me as plastic muppets telling us as you say what they think we want to hear.

I think we should take our fair share of the immigrants that are running away from a war torn country,

BUT

Lets build the house needed firstly for our own people who are either waiting on a council list or

can not afford the massive prices of some properties,

We should not just let them in if we do not have the means to support them properly,

42 men living in a 2 bed house earning £10 a day making beds is unforgivable.

There could be over 600 new builds at Peakes Parkway if the council get their finger out.

Quoted from Town Monkey

Maringer whilst I don't always agree with your conclusions or viewpoint, you always provide an interesting and in depth analysis.  That said, I have to take you to task over using Taxresearch as a source.  Surely our old friend Mr Murphy has been so discredited that his pronouncements are more likely to harm your argument.  I won't blouse on about it but take everything he writes with a bucket of salt.  

I look forward to reading more of your otherwise excellent contributions in due course.

He always uses left wing labour biased sources! Its quite laughable really especially when I've pulled him up on this many a time, you can lead a horse to water........

Quoted from Grim74

He always uses left wing labour biased sources! Its quite laughable really especially when I've pulled him up on this many a time, you can lead a horse to water........

Yes, I'm guilty of using sources which provide evidence based on statistics or research.

Perhaps you might like to try it some time?

You may note that the taxresearch link under discussion there was simply an analysis at the data as released by HMRC - no opinion involved whatsoever as Town Monkey later agreed. Perhaps you'd like to produce some evidence showing that people in self-employment don't have falling income and around 80% of them aren't in poverty?

No, thought not.

Quoted from Grim74

He always uses left wing labour biased sources! Its quite laughable really especially when I've pulled him up on this many a time, you can lead a horse to water........

You're absolutely useless at assessing the bias of sources.

Quoted from Maringer

Yes, I'm guilty of using sources which provide evidence based on statistics or research.

Perhaps you might like to try it some time?

You may note that the taxresearch link under discussion there was simply an analysis at the data as released by HMRC - no opinion involved whatsoever as Town Monkey later agreed. Perhaps you'd like to produce some evidence showing that people in self-employment don't have falling income and around 80% of them aren't in poverty?

No, thought not.

I'm self employed and although I'm not in poverty, I'm earning less now than 5 years ago,about the time the Tories first got into power in fact. They have definitely driven wages down.

Quoted from ginnywings

I'm self employed and although I'm not in poverty, I'm earning less now than 5 years ago,about the time the Tories first got into power in fact. They have definitely driven wages down.

Unless your talking about our towns and city's such as Boston or London for example, where a high European migrant influx courtesy of new labour has saturated wages for the self employed tradesman then I suggest you are talking bollox.

I know a local gas engineer who left East Coast gas services when they folded a few years ago, he went self employed and is now raking it in, he's moved from a council house to the top end of Cleethorpes in  250,000 house.

If your not in an over prescribed immigrant town i suggest you work harder or your not very good at your job.

Cool anecdotal evidence Grim74! Let's examine some empirical data on wage growth from the Office of National Statistics:

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Hmm, what's that? A sustained period of annual wage growth between 0 and 2% since the tories got into power? Oh it looks like you're talking out of your bottom again.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I think we should take our fair share of the immigrants that are running away from a war torn country,

BUT

Lets build the house needed firstly for our own people who are either waiting on a council list or

can not afford the massive prices of some properties,

We should not just let them in if we do not have the means to support them properly,

42 men living in a 2 bed house earning £10 a day making beds is unforgivable.

There could be over 600 new builds at Peakes Parkway if the council get their finger out.

Running away, here's what their women think of their men......

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That's me told then. Talking out of my bottom and rubbish at my job. You'd think after 25 years of self employment, i'd know what i was doing by now but apparently i just wasn't trying hard enough. Who knew?