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Maringer
January 27, 2016, 8:11pm
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Quite a reasonable view z93.

All most people want is a good job, with a reliable wage. The fact that so many are being forced into low-paying self-employed jobs probably explains to a good degree why tax takes are so poor despite the relatively high employment figures.

To get any sort of strength in the economy, we need better paying jobs but, with the ever-declining manufacturing sector, I can't see how we'll get there. There is only so far that service industries can go in building a strong economy and I think we're probably way past that level already.

The ideal policy to boost the economy and help to resolve many of our problems would be a major house building programme (talking millions of houses here), but I don't think we have enough expertise to build any sort of a quantity of housing any longer after decades of running down the sector.

Not that any party is going to have the balls to upset the voters of the south east who are foolishly expecting their houses to continue to appreciate in value ad infinitum. Build millions of houses (which are needed) and lots of speculators in the housing market will lose out big time. We'll have to wait until after the next collapse in the market before this could be considered. Pity that will mean suffering a further recession as well. Might not be too long away now either.
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January 27, 2016, 9:01pm

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Quite a reasonable view z93.

All most people want is a good job, with a reliable wage. The fact that so many are being forced into low-paying self-employed jobs probably explains to a good degree why tax takes are so poor despite the relatively high employment figures.

To get any sort of strength in the economy, we need better paying jobs but, with the ever-declining manufacturing sector, I can't see how we'll get there. There is only so far that service industries can go in building a strong economy and I think we're probably way past that level already.

The ideal policy to boost the economy and help to resolve many of our problems would be a major house building programme (talking millions of houses here), but I don't think we have enough expertise to build any sort of a quantity of housing any longer after decades of running down the sector.

Not that any party is going to have the balls to upset the voters of the south east who are foolishly expecting their houses to continue to appreciate in value ad infinitum. Build millions of houses (which are needed) and lots of speculators in the housing market will lose out big time. We'll have to wait until after the next collapse in the market before this could be considered. Pity that will mean suffering a further recession as well. Might not be too long away now either.


Fair points Maringer, other things to consider is that Gas safe/Corgi engineers have to resit the exam every 5 years, this is additional costs. For Electricians, there is updates to IEE wiring regs, Part P and on site guides that amount to several hundred pounds. Also the registration fees to be associated with the relevant bodies.

But this isn't the only industry were self employed people are being squeezed, taxi drivers have to fork out to local councils, auditors and licencing bodies. This can equate to being around £400 every month I was told by one taxi driver.

Building contractors are also being squeezed by the council, they have to pay fee's because more people will be using services(schools,hospitals,roads), utility costs are also quite high. Developers are relcutant to come to this neck of the woods because the profit isn't as good as say some where near Leeds where they can get anywhere from £50k to a £100K more per house sold.

What is needed in every Town and City is an estate or small tenements of two / one bedroom housing. I was speaking to someone who worked for the council whose job is to try and find landlords of run down houses so that they can either get the houses off them or some how offer incentives for the landlord to redevelop those houses. Apparently in the GY area alone there is around 2,000 properties that she has to chase down. Taking that into consideration, if this was the case in every Town and City, it would go some way to lessen that shortage.


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The coup may be coming this year. You can bet the likes of Mandelson are busy  in the background trying to orchestrate something, particularly if we do badly in May. Various people putting their two penneth into an article
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/01/should-labour-split


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I wonder if the Blairites realise that any coup will pretty much lead to the end of the party. I'd certainly never vote for them again but not sure where my vote would end up. Probably closest to the Greens but for their nonsensical energy policy.
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Running away, here's what their women think of their men......

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I should have said our fair share of family's running away,

For a man to leave a worn torn country and leave their wife and children there is disgraceful.


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I should have said our fair share of family's running away,

For a man to leave a worn torn country and leave their wife and children there is disgraceful.


We should support families especially those with young children. However, that doesn't mean we should take them in, we could support and aid them better were they are.

The majority of those at Calais are not from Syria and they are certainly not families.  These people who have latched on to the Syrian problem are causing mayhem in Europe.


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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70% men of military age, economic migrants not refugees at all. One almighty Trojan Horse in there no doubt, ISIS have even said theyre sending 500,000! Massive cover up of the rape of European women and the rest of it, forget the propaganda main stream media and use your noggin digging deeper for independent media coverage.
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70% men of military age, economic migrants not refugees at all. One almighty Trojan Horse in there no doubt, ISIS have even said theyre sending 500,000! Massive cover up of the rape of European women and the rest of it, forget the propaganda main stream media and use your noggin digging deeper for independent media coverage.


Is there any such thing as independent media coverage. He who pays the piper calls the tune....


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Is there any such thing as independent media coverage. He who pays the piper calls the tune....


Thousands of media outlets owned by 7 corporations, I would say not.

You have to look for videos / blogs of people uploading from those countries, look at some of the videos uploaded by lorry drivers.


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Well Corbyn has changed things a little, he doesn't seem so unelectable now
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