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Manchester Mariner
December 4, 2015, 8:46am

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Just been reading Fararge's hugely predictable comments. He becomes more and more of a cliche as time goes on.


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December 4, 2015, 9:05am
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Sharia community? FFS.

Brilliant sour grapes from Farage.


LOL Sounds as though the voters of Oldham are sick of the negativity of UKIPs campaigning. If they cannot push Labour after the events of the last couple of weeks then they will never do it....
My cousin lives in the constituency and the only contact she had with UKIP was via leaflets and billboards around the place. Not one person knocked on her door trying to put UKIPs case


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December 4, 2015, 9:33am
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With a 25% Muslim electorate in one hand and endless postal votes in the other Labour can count on emphatic victory. Rejoice comrades!

Reports of postal boxes coming out 99% labour unbelievable!!


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December 4, 2015, 11:31am
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Reports of postal boxes coming out 99% labour unbelievable!!


So you think more people in these Muslim-dominated low-income areas should be voting for the Tories or UKIP? If anything, they are more on the ball than low-income workers who somewhat incredibly voted for the Tories in the General Election earlier this year and are paying the price already. If you're a lower income worker of foreign extraction/descent, you'd have to be pretty much insane to vote for UKIP or the Tories, I'd have thought.

That said, I don't doubt that the situation will be that the head of the household in many of these areas decides who gets the votes of all his family members which isn't exactly the most democratic of situations. Not sure the way to fix this, really. I suppose a government-funded push to promote voting in person might help a little but there should be some attempts to get people to cast their own votes.

No need to worry, though - once the boundary changes go through, I don't doubt that these areas will be sidelined so that their votes become worth very little on a national scale, regardless of which way they are cast.
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December 4, 2015, 11:41am

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Imagine that: people voting for who they think represents them best. What a novel idea.
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December 4, 2015, 1:18pm
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Just been reading Fararge's hugely predictable comments. He becomes more and more of a cliche as time goes on.


Bet UKIP are feeling pretty much the same today as they did when they failed to take Great Grimsby in the General Election.... Gutted  
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December 4, 2015, 1:31pm
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I think there are a lot of people on both sides trying to extrapolate things from one result.  I think that the local Labour candidate had done excellent work in the area as a councillor (can we have some in Grimsby please?) and was never going to be in danger of defeat.  Some of UKIP's bile has been pretty unedifying to say the least.

I don't think we'll know what effect JC has had on the wider electorate until May at least and who knows what the world will look like then.
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After 31 hours he finally rearranged the deck chairs on the titanic of the Labour Party 😄


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Pfft. Minor reshuffle, nothing more. Storm in a teacup whipped up by the media who have decided to let the Tories get away without any blame for cutting £1 billion on flood expenditure since they came into office:

http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/uk-flood-prevention-missing-billion.html

Yep, that's a cumulative cut of £1 billion, yet we've not heard a peep about it in the media. It's almost as if they were following some sort of an agenda!

Can't say I'm overly impressed by Thornberry, but understandable that Corbyn needs a unilateralist as defence secretary. On the other hand, if a few of the Blairite MPs put as much effort into attacking the incompetence of the Tory government as they did in attempting to knife their own leadership in the back, then perhaps they wouldn't need to be booted out of the shadow cabinet.

Oh, as expected, I see Osborne is searching around for somebody else to blame for his ongoing complete and utter failure to do anything like a competent job. Apparently, it was them Chinese whatdunnit this time!
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Anything Labour does is highly scrutinised and derided. Stops people looking at the true issues. My partner has just learned that her NI is going up by £24 per month or she won't get a full state pension. That's when she's finally allowed to retire sometime in her late 90's the way things are going.
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